The waterfront location has not been taken off of the table. My question, is, why is Tampa even a consideration at this point? St. Pete is not going to let the Rays out of the lease..
I think the rays need a new area! The reason why fans are low at the games is because nobody wants to drive all the way to st. pete. Its a pain in the butt trying to get TO the stadium period.. Needs to be in a area with more people.. Like Raymond james stadium, like Yankees spring training ball park Great area... If there called Tampa bay rays why are they in st.pete anyway.. TAMPA bay RAYS, TAMPA bay bucs. You people are smart I dont have to tell you, we all know where they belong........
I live in Tampa, and I don't mind driving to St. Pete to watch a game. Waterfront is great, but the current plan blows due to parking, which will be a nightmare. Why don't they tear down Albert Whitted and build a bigger park there? Then you can use the old Progress Energy lot for parking.
Folks, it's all on the table right now. There is nothing that can be ruled out. And Tampa and/or Hillsborough county needs to make sure they get someone or two on that committee being formed.
Wow! That happened faster than I would have guessed. I assume the Money Boyz will now go where their investments are welcome.
St Pete had better be careful. The word about turning away money gets around fast amoung a small crowd. This decision will hurt more than the stadium opponents can measure. Just what is downtown's next act?
So much for growth. Whiners won.
The Rays waterfront plan shows a great deal of creativity and would greatly assist St. Pete's efforts in having a dense and attractive downtown metro area.
Building the stadium somewhere else, such as across from the Valpac building would be a continuation of planning and development mistakes made by the Tampa Bay area.
There is a reason that Tampa Bay is not on the popular best places to live list and it is due to the poor decision making by its undereducated citizens and politicians.
If I were the Rays I would start talking to Orlando.
The waterfront location in downtown St Pete is by far the best! This will showcase St Pete. It is the most desired location in all of Pinellas County. I hope they build there and keep the tradition of Al Lang Field alive.
Building a new stadium at the Trop site is a good idea if we can also bring in electric rail from Tampa to the site. This will help commuters and make it easier and less expensive for people to attend the games. It will also reduce congestion on our already crowded roads.
We never wanted baseball here and it was forced on us by chamber of commerce here in St. Pete. We never got to vote. Like we never got to vote for all the million and millions spent on downtown. It always turned out a mess and we were taxed and taxed. The city government never did without. Their pockets were always filled. They torn down the old Florida Theater. It was beautiful. That was the beginnning of the corruption. They torn it down for money. They sent the retired people out of the city. It was clear they did not want retired people here anymore. They build this Trop without the people's wishes. We have been stuck with it. Now we say no more. This city has always told us to suck it in. Now it is time they suck it in. Our city government has plenty of money. I mean plenty of money. Ask Tish. This city has money coming our of its ears. Each year when they do the budget they cry about police/fire protection and the property taxes only pay for that. The city is poor. It is on it last penny. We can not cut taxes. Yet they give a million to the southside and take back the ten million from the police dept. and put that in the general fund. The police dept has not grown for thirty years. Why, out population stays the same. You can not get a policeman out of his air-conditioner car. And after twenty-five years a policeman get 75% of his pay in retirement. City pays for this. They have the money for a new nice police station. Like we need a new one. Now the city is in funding schools. Yet they do not take care of the homeless and the police prevent churches feeding them while they sit in their air-conditioned cars. Is the city asking the police to cut back on running their engines twenty-four hours a day. No. why not? For the city has plenty of money.
Have you noticed that every new baseball stadium constructed recently has hosted the All-Star game but the Trop? That's very telling of what MLB and many fans think about this venue. The new Rays deserve better!
Why does the team need to move to Tampa? The people in Pinellas commute to Tampa for the Buc's and Lightning. It's time for the Tampa crowd to show us some love.
Why not stay where they are, they made the decision to build there and it's close enough to downtown and easy access to the highway.
If they can't live with that decision then they should just disappear.
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Aaron,
Why is the Waterfront on there when the poll asks what OTHER SITES???
Posted by: Ray F | June 25, 2008 at 05:03 PM
The waterfront location has not been taken off of the table. My question, is, why is Tampa even a consideration at this point? St. Pete is not going to let the Rays out of the lease..
Posted by: Rays Mike | June 25, 2008 at 05:09 PM
I think the rays need a new area! The reason why fans are low at the games is because nobody wants to drive all the way to st. pete. Its a pain in the butt trying to get TO the stadium period.. Needs to be in a area with more people.. Like Raymond james stadium, like Yankees spring training ball park Great area... If there called Tampa bay rays why are they in st.pete anyway.. TAMPA bay RAYS, TAMPA bay bucs. You people are smart I dont have to tell you, we all know where they belong........
Posted by: Florida | June 25, 2008 at 05:20 PM
Pretty funny watching all the Tampons come out of the woodwork suddenly.
Posted by: John | June 25, 2008 at 05:22 PM
I live in Tampa, and I don't mind driving to St. Pete to watch a game. Waterfront is great, but the current plan blows due to parking, which will be a nightmare. Why don't they tear down Albert Whitted and build a bigger park there? Then you can use the old Progress Energy lot for parking.
Posted by: Max | June 25, 2008 at 05:41 PM
Hey Max, why don't we tear down Ybor city and put it there?
Try and keep up?
Posted by: Tampa sucks | June 25, 2008 at 05:45 PM
Albet Whitted is off limits for at least 20 years per the Feds and per a referedum by the citizens of St Pete.
Posted by: Dave in St Pete | June 25, 2008 at 05:45 PM
"Hey Max, why don't we tear down Ybor city and put it there?"
Fine by me. Speaking of dumps, change my vote to Toytown.
Posted by: Max | June 25, 2008 at 05:51 PM
Folks, it's all on the table right now. There is nothing that can be ruled out. And Tampa and/or Hillsborough county needs to make sure they get someone or two on that committee being formed.
Posted by: Bobby Fenton | June 25, 2008 at 06:09 PM
Sorry Bobby, Tampa is not being included. Steinbrenner will have none of that since he "owns" Tampa.
Nor should they be included. This is a Pinellas issue. Not Hillsborough.
Nice try, though.
Posted by: John | June 25, 2008 at 06:12 PM
Wow! That happened faster than I would have guessed. I assume the Money Boyz will now go where their investments are welcome.
St Pete had better be careful. The word about turning away money gets around fast amoung a small crowd. This decision will hurt more than the stadium opponents can measure. Just what is downtown's next act?
So much for growth. Whiners won.
Posted by: Lee | June 25, 2008 at 06:24 PM
The Rays waterfront plan shows a great deal of creativity and would greatly assist St. Pete's efforts in having a dense and attractive downtown metro area.
Building the stadium somewhere else, such as across from the Valpac building would be a continuation of planning and development mistakes made by the Tampa Bay area.
There is a reason that Tampa Bay is not on the popular best places to live list and it is due to the poor decision making by its undereducated citizens and politicians.
If I were the Rays I would start talking to Orlando.
Posted by: Austin | June 25, 2008 at 06:59 PM
The waterfront location in downtown St Pete is by far the best! This will showcase St Pete. It is the most desired location in all of Pinellas County. I hope they build there and keep the tradition of Al Lang Field alive.
GO RAYS!!!
Posted by: Waterfront Baseball | June 25, 2008 at 07:11 PM
Building a new stadium at the Trop site is a good idea if we can also bring in electric rail from Tampa to the site. This will help commuters and make it easier and less expensive for people to attend the games. It will also reduce congestion on our already crowded roads.
Posted by: Mike | June 25, 2008 at 08:02 PM
AUSTIN
don't use the word "dense"
PINELLAS COUNTY BEACHES ARE REGULARLY RANKED #1 WORLDWIDE
TOURISM IS OUR ECONOMY STUPID
TAMPA BAY REGION IS CURRENTLY RANKED IN TOP 5 RETIREMENT
OUR AMENITES COMBINED WITH RELATIVE AFFORDABILITY OUTRANK COMPARABLE CITIES
Rays have a place within
this OVERALL economy.
Rays MUST increase finacial contribution
Rays MUST agree to a site acceptable to community
TOYTOWN IS CENTRALLY LOCATED AND HAS DEVELOPMENT SCHEDULED INCLUDING 60? ACRE RECREATIONAL COMPONENT WITH DEVELOPER BEAR CREEK EAGER TO BUILD STADIUM
Posted by: | June 25, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Why don't we just leave the state and play in Veagas.
Posted by: Philip | June 26, 2008 at 12:43 AM
Goodbye people and GO COWBELL!!!
Posted by: Will Ferrell | June 26, 2008 at 12:47 AM
because Vegas has
economic(foreclosures),
and
ecologic(water)
(just to name two)
pressures JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER CITY IN AMERICA.
Posted by: since1962 | June 26, 2008 at 12:49 AM
We never wanted baseball here and it was forced on us by chamber of commerce here in St. Pete. We never got to vote. Like we never got to vote for all the million and millions spent on downtown. It always turned out a mess and we were taxed and taxed. The city government never did without. Their pockets were always filled. They torn down the old Florida Theater. It was beautiful. That was the beginnning of the corruption. They torn it down for money. They sent the retired people out of the city. It was clear they did not want retired people here anymore. They build this Trop without the people's wishes. We have been stuck with it. Now we say no more. This city has always told us to suck it in. Now it is time they suck it in. Our city government has plenty of money. I mean plenty of money. Ask Tish. This city has money coming our of its ears. Each year when they do the budget they cry about police/fire protection and the property taxes only pay for that. The city is poor. It is on it last penny. We can not cut taxes. Yet they give a million to the southside and take back the ten million from the police dept. and put that in the general fund. The police dept has not grown for thirty years. Why, out population stays the same. You can not get a policeman out of his air-conditioner car. And after twenty-five years a policeman get 75% of his pay in retirement. City pays for this. They have the money for a new nice police station. Like we need a new one. Now the city is in funding schools. Yet they do not take care of the homeless and the police prevent churches feeding them while they sit in their air-conditioned cars. Is the city asking the police to cut back on running their engines twenty-four hours a day. No. why not? For the city has plenty of money.
Posted by: Kim | June 26, 2008 at 02:05 AM
Your Poll OMITTED the
majority VOTERS choice.
NO NEW STADIUM
DIFFICULT TO ACCEPT.
LOST/DELAYED ADVERTISING-TIMES
DELAYED REDEVELOPMENT TROP LOT
RAYS CAUSED THIS.
The task force has a nearly impossible 'task" NOW, given public sentiment.
Posted by: | June 26, 2008 at 02:05 AM
yes kim
very sad
but true
Posted by: | June 26, 2008 at 02:10 AM
Approx 664 entries as this progressed today.
good luck finding
ANY site at
ANY cost at
ANY time
UNFORTUNATE
We are NOT an unreasonable people but reactionary once we feel we have been duped.
Watch the politicans duck for cover once they understand.
Posted by: | June 26, 2008 at 02:55 AM
Have you noticed that every new baseball stadium constructed recently has hosted the All-Star game but the Trop? That's very telling of what MLB and many fans think about this venue. The new Rays deserve better!
Posted by: eduardo sarmiento | June 26, 2008 at 07:25 AM
Why does the team need to move to Tampa? The people in Pinellas commute to Tampa for the Buc's and Lightning. It's time for the Tampa crowd to show us some love.
Posted by: Ryan | June 26, 2008 at 07:35 AM
Why not stay where they are, they made the decision to build there and it's close enough to downtown and easy access to the highway.
If they can't live with that decision then they should just disappear.
Posted by: Joe | June 26, 2008 at 08:01 AM