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October 09, 2008

Fraudulent voter applications in Pinellas?

Pinellas SOE Deb Clark has received 35 voter registration applications in the past two weeks from the group Work for Progress that appear "questionable or possibly fraudulent," according to a release from her office. Clark has notified the State Attorney and the Florida Division of Elections.

According to the release, the handwriting on some of the applications is similar; others share the same address.

After getting 21 of the applications, Clark's staff contacted the group, which describes itself on its Web-site as a nonprofit working with clients to support Sen. Barack Obama's campaign, and was told the person responsible had been fired. Subsequently, another 14 applications were received.

Will Van Sant, Times staff writer

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No surprise! The "fix" is in - Obama wins as Dems, dead or live, vote early and often!!!

True Blue

WOW!!! 35 "alleged fraudulent applications" out of how many Deb?? Whoever was responsible-if true-should be prosecuted as a signal that this type of activity will not be condoned.
QUESTION: When did Deb learn how to count-something she has failed at over the past eight years.

Let's see, that's far fewer than the 268 uncounted absentee ballots Deborah Clark's office "misplaced" and ended up unable to count in the 2004 general election. What did State Attorney Bernie McCabe do to her? NOT A DAMNED THING!

Or when it was revealed that Deborah's husband had worked for one of the bidders for Pinellas' voting machine bounty, Election Systems & Software? Bernie did NADA.

Professor

Polling 101 - This weeks assignment: Overcoming The nFactor with more n's.

Read and discuss:
"Pinellas SOE Clark has received 35 voter registration applications from the group Work for Progress that appear "questionable or possibly fraudulent..."
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1. Is 35 the tip of the iceberg? Is there 1000 times more?

2. Can enough voter fraud tip the election? If so, in you opinion, which candidate would be the beneficiary of such a fraud? Knowing this; would you vote for a candidate with such a dirty following. If you can, are you part of the problem (criminal) or do you rationalize the crime due to ignorance or immorality?

Chris

Markets Reflect an Obama Presidency
Stock markets are a reflection of the future, at least the future as viewed in the present by many, many participants of all sorts from the small individual investor to large mutual funds. Over the course of the later stages of the United States presidential campaign Senator Obama has consistently held the lead, sometimes by a sizable margin, such as now, sometimes less, such as just after the Republican Convention. But he has led throughout the course of the progress of this credit crisis.

I believe that it is no coincidence that in this global economy there is a crisis of confidence in a leftist United States government led by Obama in the presidency and a liberal Democratic Congress. This has been underlying the markets for some time, but is feeding on itself now. There is fear of this stronghold of capitalism tempered with democracy moving so far to the left that it can no longer lead in this global economy.

The United States is still by far the world's largest economy and our leadership matters. Our greatest strength is our people, our hard-working, dedicated people. We need the strong, sound, wise, intelligent, tough, persevering guidance of Senator McCain. McCain can and will work on a bipartisan way with the Democratic Congress to get things done, the right things. He will also use his veto power to avoid the wrong things.

On the other hand, Obama is not only very much a leftist of long standing, but he has many troubling relationships in Chicago and is very inexperienced and simply lacks the depth of McCain.

Remember, the stock market is a leading indicator and my view is that it is telling us not only here, but around the world, that Obama is a poor choice for the presidency in 2008.

John E. Wade II

Please visit www.honestjohnwade.com for political insights and biography reviews on all the candidates.

*ALERT: ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY, THERE HAVE BEEN VOTER REGISTRATION FRAUD BY GROUPS SUPPORTING BARACK OBAMA.

F.B.I. IS INVESTIGATING A.C.O.R.N. AS WE SPEAK.

*ALERT: ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY, THERE HAVE BEEN VOTER REGISTRATION FRAUD BY GROUPS SUPPORTING JOHN MCCAIN.

F.B.I. IS INVESTIGATING LOCAL ALF'S. AS WE SPEAK.

Willing & Able to Vote

Without attaching something that cannot (easily) be hacked or followed up on (like a finger print or retina scan or personal identification number with no known cryptographing process) that might infringe upon the process of hosting an "anonymous" vote, there will always be an element of potential for fraud.

I can say this (half in response to bumper stickers denoting: don't blame me, I voted against Bush) - I did vote for the first G.W., and then I grew as a person and attempted to vote for Kerry (where I'd be voting against the war and other implemented policies I did not agree with); however, although several timepieces reflected otherwise, my very Republican neighborhood voting facility turned me away, claiming it was "after 7:00" according to their watch. I also know that though it might be more difficult to orchestrate, it would be much more easy to make an electronic voter fraud scheme occur. It would especially be more difficult if the architecture of the hardware was known by those committing the fraud and less familiar to any who might attempt an investigation.

As far as handwriting analysis is concerned and comparison of addresses, is there no standard for apportioning these ballots? Aren't there two categories: eligible voters (including those alive and legally registered) and ineligible non-voters? If it comes down to a group of FBI investigators puzzling over 15 sheets of paper, perhaps there should be a "raffle ticket" sort of tear off on the bottom where only if you almost "lost your vote" would your number(s) be called and your identity perhaps revealed to said law enforcement agency.

Chris Brudy

Professor: "Voter Fraud" is nearly nonexistent. Work for Progress is probably a sham set up by Rs to generate noise and distract from fraudulent voter roll purging, "misplacement" of see-through absentee ballots and, of course, the insanely easy Republican hacking of scanners and tabulators by trojan vote-flip viruses. The Rs don't want us to think about the those real threats to an honest count, so we get this "voter fraud" garbage.
Chris, This Stock Market Crisis is NOT about the future. It is the direct result of a combination of the easing of financial market oversight by the Federal government, and of the speculative greed unleashed by said easing.
Ever since the New Deal ushered in requirements for responsibility in the financial markets, the Republicans have squawked getting rid of those prudent regulations. The present economic meltdown is the result of the Republicans getting their way, dating back to Reagan.
Of course, now that the 700 billion giveaway is authorized, Republicans are calling for the government to buy chunks of the biggest banks.
Presto, the Republicans hate welfare and socialism, unless it is coming to them.

Chris Brudy

John Wade claims the United States is the worlds largest economy. That is incorrect, as the Chinese passed us last year, and are pulling away at an increasing rate.

Joel

Does not matter what Obama and his people pull. He's already in the White House. The media won't have it any other way. Nothing the man does, and nothing from the man's shady/questionable past will hurt him. . .because the media will not allow it.

Does not matter what McSenile and his people pull. He wont be in the White House. No matter what the man does. Nothing the man does, and nothing from the man's shady/questionable past will hurt him. . .because the media will not allow it.

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