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not just a "no" but a HELL NO ... and money is NOT an object
I HATE pre-season and can never attend all 10 games each year in the 1st place ... so why take the increase on regular season games AND preseason (worthless) games just to pad the Glazers pockets when they're running a team $44 mill below the cap (on the cheap)????
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!
Posted by: Fed Up Fan | March 03, 2008 at 03:08 PM
I am a season ticket holder and renewed this year, however (for the first time) I considered giving up my seats. The price just keeps climbing and I agree with the post about the rip off concerning meaningless pre-season games. Finally, look up greedy in the dictionary and you see the Gloazers.
Posted by: baynerd | March 03, 2008 at 03:11 PM
I didn't renew this year because i am unable to make all 8 regular season games and hate preseason. I wasn't able to sell my tickets to the games i missed last year because no one wanted to pay full price so this year will be worse. Glazers you suck.
Posted by: Mike | March 03, 2008 at 03:21 PM
with the talent they are bringing in, the answer is a big NO
Posted by: | March 03, 2008 at 03:21 PM
Too expensive, too hot, gas to costly to drive to Tampa, parking is expensive, love the Bucs, but is too expensive anymore.
Posted by: Jeff | March 03, 2008 at 03:48 PM
Still the best ticket in town. I got my season tickets and am always looking to add to them.
Posted by: Pete | March 03, 2008 at 04:00 PM
We are dropping our seats this year(3) plus 2 parking passes. that invoice was $3,470.00 I use to park in the old mall parking lot because I was told years ago it was reserved for Season Tick holders. Then I found they will take anyone’s $25 bucks. Not to mention the condition of the lot is horrible. My seats have gone from $36. in 1998 to $99.00 this year. Let’s not forget the small print disclaimer that allows the team to Hold the remaining 55% of my seat deposit some $600. unless I cancel my seats. Then try to make it sound better by saying I won’t have to pay another deposit now that my original agreement is over. Bull shi*. Go ahead and mail me my $485 in unused playoff tix +my $600. and I will run out to buy a New High Def flat panel and watch all the Difference makers we picked up in Free Agency..lol
Posted by: Mike/ Tampa | March 03, 2008 at 04:02 PM
Nope. I wouldn't. I gave them up a while ago.
Posted by: Joe | March 03, 2008 at 04:03 PM
Yes I did renew my season Tickets for three more years,
But I am getting a little pissed about the lack of aggressive presuit of quality freeagents. We ended the season last year with about 20million in cap space, and started this year in area of 40million. On top of that the team expects us to watch the backups play leading into the playoffs. I won't even go into the sorry performance that we had to witness that day.
I have mixed emotions about Gruden and was actually mad he got an extention after a year in which he did not earn it.
I am a life long fan of this franchise and have sat threw many years in old sombero, I was here before the Glazers and I'll be here when their gone.
Thanks for the opportunity to vent alittle.
Posted by: jason | March 03, 2008 at 04:08 PM
Fed Up Fan: Yes ticket prices are high for this midum sized NFL market, but do not blame the Glazers for a 10 game ticket package. It is the same for ALL NFL teams. All teams are required to have 4 preseason games, 2 home & 2 away as determined by the schedule produced by the league. Ticket packages must include all 10 games. Second, in regards to going to all 10 games, that's just part of being a season ticket holder. Are you saying that season ticket holders of MLB, NHL, & NBA franchises should be fed up with having 81,41,& 41 regular season home games respectively. Last I checked my math skills, making 10 home games is far less than any other professional sport, even if it does include the preseason. As far as being $44m under the cap...hello???? The NFL just entered the free agency signing period & teams that have done a prudent job in previous years are UNDER THE CAP at this point in time. Money under the cap in Feb/Mar is to be used for free agency & the draft. Would you rather have them be at the cap & not have the ability to even sign their draft picks? You & many others can hate the Bucs & the Glazers, but the argument you present is rather weak.
Posted by: | March 03, 2008 at 04:09 PM
I had to give up my season tickets this year as I can't afford to spend $2000 on football tickets when all my other bills keep going up. I will really miss being at the games. I hate to say it but the Bucs will probably have more than one game blacked out on tv this year. People in our region just can't afford to pay this much for entertainment.
Posted by: mike | March 03, 2008 at 04:14 PM
???????????????????? So they can bring in Brian Griese? Warrick Dunn? Grandma Moses? If they get serious about signing some players that are going to make us better, yes I would buy tickets. What happened to Samueuls, who had interest in Tampa...what about Turner? Why are the Falcons and Saints getting better and we are remaining the same?
Posted by: John Klopfer | March 03, 2008 at 04:21 PM
I already did and I'll buy yours too you bunch of ingrates. The owners have put everything into this team; new stadium; new training facility, great coaching staff and you still whine. I hope you all go broke and can't afford a TV to watch them on too!!!
Posted by: Kurt | March 03, 2008 at 04:31 PM
Hey Kurt how much did your tix go up? Stroke me a check for $3500 and you can have mine. Maybe your ok with a bad investment. If the Bucs treat it like business shouldnt we as well. Im no Economics or Business Manger but I can tell you this. 2 pre season games at a cost of $ 600.00 ok lets break this down. I don't care about a bunch of undrafted FAs trying to make the Special Teams unit. If the starters play 25% of the game then we should pay 25% of the value. If the team makes a decision to bench our starters for 2-3 games because we won the Division and played the first Playoff game with no momentum then the TEAM should off set the price of those tix as well.. We pay to see the best play. In simple business terms its a bad investment. Lets not even talk about the Seat Deposit Bait and Switch.
Posted by: Mike/ Tampa | March 03, 2008 at 04:45 PM
It's still a great venue to watch an NFL game if you can afford it. The problem is that more and more Buc fans simply can't afford it - or just don't want to pay ridiculous prices to watch a bunch of prima donnas play. Sadly, I think the NFL is going to price itself out of existence at this rate. Perhaps, it's time for another upstart league to start taking players, fans, and money away from them. That's all the NFL really understands. Hit them in the pocketbook and they'll pay attention. Start a league-wide boycott of games and suddenly their world will be turned upside down. If people stop caring about NFL football, the sponsors will stop caring as well. Find something else to do with your Sundays. Watch college football on Saturdays and spend your Sundays eiyh your family. Football is a great sport, but the NFL is making a mockery of it. Ultimately, the fans control the market, not the league. The fans just have to get to organized and start using their power. How about an NFL Fan Union? That would send a shiver down every owner's back. We could even hold fan meetings in fancy hotels to decide what rules and demands we're going to make on owners this year. That would be fun for a change.
Posted by: Steve W | March 03, 2008 at 04:46 PM
Kurt, let me remind you the owners put nothing, NOTHING, in the new stadium. Remember the sales tax increase? This means me as well as "ingrates" like you are paying for the stadium - not the Glazers. Also remember the $12mm that was allocated by the sports authority for the practice facility? So they did not pay for that either. Additionally, ask the USF Bulls about how much money that goes to the Glazers from their home games. I have been a season ticket holder for 15 years and will not be any longer. The game is no longer about the fan or the sport, it has become a game of greed shared by ownership and players.
Posted by: TS | March 03, 2008 at 04:50 PM
"Given the state of the economy"...nice leading question SPTimes. A scientific poll this is not. The Bucs are a business, it's called supply and demand.
Posted by: Yasmine | March 03, 2008 at 04:58 PM
To all of those giving up thier Bucs tickets: Piece out Quitters!
Now please quit wasting your time here whining about being broke and go out and get a better J.O.B.
F'n bums.
Posted by: James | March 03, 2008 at 05:30 PM
I pay it. It's the only game in town. When the Bucs called me in '05 and said my name came up on the Season Ticket Waiting List, I had cash and I plunked it down.
And regardless of what this poll says, other people will pay it and will continue to pay it. The vocal dissenters are saying they won't pay for tickets because if/when the Bucs called they would have to decline. Most people are so financially irresponsible that thay don't have the $2000-3000 to drop on that initial first season. It's not that people are unwilling - the core fan can't do it because all of his/her credit cards are maxed out and they're upside-down on a POS car. Sad truth.
Posted by: Adam | March 03, 2008 at 05:31 PM
Well, I am not a season ticket holder and never have been. Honestly, I can't see paying $30 a game for 8 games, plus preseason. I appreciate all the people who do pay that price because it gives me the ability to sit at home or a sports bar in the A.C. and watch the game for free. Cheap beers, no lines at the restroom, and no idiot from Philly or New York trying to start a fight. As a non-ticket holder I will say it has gotten out of hand. The public paid for the stadium and this is what we get in return? I will see football at the RayJay several times this year - via the USF Bulls. Go Bulls!
Posted by: John | March 03, 2008 at 05:37 PM
I had to forfeit my Season tickets after having them for several seasons. The combination of the price increase with the ridiculous deadlines for payments, I was unable to renew my seats. I called the Ticket office and pleaded to get a one month extention, and I was told no. Mind you, I had 2 seats with the real fans in the 300 sections and I was then sent a letter from the Bucs informing me that "I would no longer be a part of the Buc's 2007 Season". Thanks a lot. What a nice slap in the face to a fan that wore Buc orange when it wasn't cool for 14 straight losing seasons and paid for Season tickets through every increase. I was already bummed that I lost my Season tickets. I will take the $1500 I would have spent on Tickets and get a nice new TV and support the team (NOT the ticket office) from home.
Posted by: Bryan | March 03, 2008 at 05:47 PM
I would have... but that was before they did a bone headed thing like put the team 40+ million below the salary cap only to let accomplished free agents sign with the likes of other NFC SOUTH teams. We easilly should have signed Stallworth, Crumpler, Turner, and Samuel. That probably would have put this team in the NFC championship game. But no, that's ok. Let Jeff Garcia scramble for his life once more because his recievers cant get open (Clayton, Stovall) or catch a pass in traffic (Galloway), or rely on his backs because Gruden runs the one good back into injured reserve (Graham next year). I might even go so far as to cancel my NFL Sunday Ticket, let alone not by actual game tickets!
Posted by: | March 03, 2008 at 05:52 PM
While you John sit at the sports bar watching the game for free like it's just another of so many home games a year and not just 10-12, I'll again be in Section 306 Row C for the 10th straight season buying many $6.50 beers because that's the price you pay when you patronize the worlds greatest game.
Please get over yourselves people, this is a business that's only a product of it's high demand and if you feel the product doesn't merit your opening of your wallet just 10-12 times a season then by all means give up on it, but please quit whining about money/prices as it resembles that of a beaten horse.
Posted by: Jam | March 03, 2008 at 05:55 PM
at least you're not in my town. The Lions raised their ticket prices as well with a GM that has a loosing record that reminds me of the unglory days in Tampa Bay. If I had season tickets to eather team I wouldn't renew them. The NFL is great at what they do..which is market the teams. that and there are only so many games a year so given the high demand and the low number of games (compared to other pro teams that is) they can get away with it ..even here in Detroit and in Tampa
Posted by: Kevin | March 03, 2008 at 06:43 PM
This just in: Malcom Glazer likes hot dogs.
Posted by: | March 03, 2008 at 07:05 PM
I am a big, bad fan on the boards ... I even have money as long as we're on a message board ... so send it to me and my horseface brothers Joel, Bryan and Ed!!!
James @ 5:30: it's "peace" out you ebonically challenged nimrod
Posted by: Kurt Glazer | March 03, 2008 at 07:11 PM
Okay, stop all the fuss. Besides, where else can I get all the money I need to sink into my pro soccer organization?
Posted by: Malcolm Glazer | March 03, 2008 at 07:12 PM
Piece out... LMAO what a tard!
Posted by: Tony Bofadeez | March 03, 2008 at 07:13 PM
I would take a loan out to get season tickets. Yes they are not playing the free agent market very well. How often have they? Price increase is a part of society. Does your milk taste that much better now that you pay more for it? Nope its still T.G. LEE. Understandable people truly not having the funds to make the purchase. And really feel bad for the guy who was told no on a 1 month advance with the note. Truth is... die hard is die hard. Consider this... Buc tickets are some of the cheapest in the league. Easily down in the bottom half. Now I am not a ticket holder so im not sure how much the increase was. But like i stated at the beginning. I would take a loan out for this TEAM
Posted by: Eric Cullison | March 03, 2008 at 07:20 PM
Theres no I in team. But there is, in "Millionaire" (see Glazers bank accounts).
Posted by: Tony Bofadeez | March 03, 2008 at 07:27 PM
I'd buy tickets, but only if Hulk Hogan was playing QB.
Posted by: BUCCfan | March 03, 2008 at 07:42 PM
Look at my team. They're fabulous!
Posted by: Bruce Allen | March 03, 2008 at 07:51 PM
Vote for me!
Posted by: Barack Obama | March 03, 2008 at 08:09 PM
Remember how long it took to get the playoff game sold out? Well, it is a prelude for what is to come. Good ole fashioned local TV blackout here we come.
Posted by: Kurt Thoreson | March 03, 2008 at 08:33 PM
Hulk Hogan QB? He couldn't even throw a pass to Linda...lol Hulk Hogan was the joke of WWF/WWE!!! He simply SUCKED...just like Gruden and his raggedy GM; HOWEVER, there is still time to redeem theirselves if they play the cards right. No more bonehead decisions on mediocre players and lets make some splash at playmakers! Last wish...please don't F--K UP THE DRAFT...GET WHAT WE NEED AND A REAL PLAYER AT EITHER CORNER/WIDEOUT/OR DL!!!
Posted by: GTSKYRIDER | March 03, 2008 at 11:24 PM
The Glazers have made seeing the Buccaneers live impossible for the average worker and student (myself). Why do you think English soccer fans hate them for what theyve done to ManU? I understand that it is a business for them, but the worst seat in Raymond James is not worth half of what theyre asking.
Posted by: NEIL | March 04, 2008 at 01:59 AM
Guys, Kurt is an utter complete moron who doesn't understand the fact that the tax payers, not the owners are paying for the stadium. The owners have done nothing here. They're losers. Great coaching staff? .500 record is considered great??? Jesus, we have low standards.
Posted by: DR | March 04, 2008 at 07:29 AM
I will renew and i have the offseason i can wait to be back in the stadium. Why do you call the tickets an investment in the team. This money is for experience and entertainment and time with the family and friends. When i die the Tampa games will be some of my best experiences and that is speaking of someone that has traveled all over the world and seen combat many times in war. This is the problem with Tampa they look at their own things instead of supporting a team and a cause. Well it is for the better we dont need the negativity in the stadium save that for the band wagon fans at the bars and armchair quarterbacks. I Love Gruden and Bruce Allen is the best deal maker in the world.
Posted by: | March 04, 2008 at 08:44 AM
Best deal maker in the world? Riiight. Because Griese is worth having.
Posted by: LMAO | March 04, 2008 at 09:11 AM
I have no problem paying for regular season games. I think if you are a season ticket holder that the Bucs could give people a break by only making them pay 1/2 price for pre-season games, I think that is fair. I mean I'm not expecting to get pre-season for free because I am realistic but atleast give season ticket holders a little bit of a break. I have been a season ticket holder now for 23 years.
Posted by: Don Elsner | March 04, 2008 at 09:11 AM
We did not renew our tickets this year after fulfilling the 10 yr contract. Our tickets this year including parking pass was over $2300. We always thought it was highway robbery to make us not only buy preseason tickets, but have to pay full price. Also, $25 per game to park is outrageous. The Bucs organization is pricing themselves out of fans pocketbooks. We will be enjoying the games on our new plasma TV, without having to get up and down constantly throughout the game while folks have to go get beer and food.
Posted by: Ron | March 04, 2008 at 09:55 AM
My Mom actually posted the one above
Posted by: Steve | March 04, 2008 at 09:57 AM
You have to be a complete idiot to pay 2300 to go watch the bucs play for 10 - 12 games. The biggest reason is because they are absolutely horrible. If your going to pay that much money for 10 - 12 games to watch the bucs, you might as well save that money and invest in attending one of the conference title games or even the superbowl. Dont waste it on them . As for James who says if we cant afford it then get a better job, why would we spend our hard earned money on the bucs there not even worth the money. They had one glory season and they will never get back there again.
Posted by: The kid | March 04, 2008 at 11:54 AM
A resounding no, along with all of my friends who WERE season ticket holders I cancelled my tickets for this year. The Glazer leprechauns have mistakenly overestimated the value of their product. We are a small market with a low median income and we're about to go into a major recession. "Hey, I've got a dumb idea, let's jack up ticket prices 25%." Duh, I hope the glass is sweet on the shortbus, because the Glazers are a bunch of windowlickers.
P.S.
That stadium will be empty next year when Gruden tanks just like he's always done after posting a winning season.
Posted by: Johnny C | March 04, 2008 at 03:15 PM
Yes, I think the Bucs are the grooviest team in the NFL. Although I have a hard outer shell when I am not at the games, I get all soft and gushy when I'm there. Never Fear Buccaneers You will see the Count in his sprty red convertable racing from South Tampa to RAY J on opening day
Posted by: Johnny the Count | March 04, 2008 at 03:17 PM
Are Johnny C and Johnny the Count the same person? Make up your mind fool. Are you going or staying home?
Posted by: Jorilla | March 04, 2008 at 03:22 PM
Wait a minute Im confused is Johnny C really Johnny the Count?
Posted by: The Clown | March 04, 2008 at 03:23 PM
I think after picking up LB Sensation Leon Joe in Free Agency, the Bucs should triple season ticket prices!!!!
Posted by: The Clown | March 04, 2008 at 03:29 PM
Yes for me I will get ticket for many game, not only but because to go I can see linebacker for best of the ages mister Leon Joe.
Posted by: Juarrahizio | March 04, 2008 at 03:43 PM
LMAO, hehe, lets all get tickets to see "Average Joe".
Posted by: The Man | March 04, 2008 at 03:44 PM
I'd like to get tickets.
Posted by: Brett Favre | March 04, 2008 at 04:31 PM
In my country, my sister, #1 prostitute in all of Khazakstan, make money enough for to have season ticket for whole family to see all futbol games every year!
Posted by: Borat | March 04, 2008 at 05:44 PM
I'll renew but I don't have to be happy about it. The new ticket agreement that I have been forced to sign (or give up my seats in row D) is a complete shafting. THe Glazers should make the Manchester United fans pay my seat license and refund my money as promised.
Posted by: Sucker4Bucs | March 04, 2008 at 06:12 PM
This just in: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have recently informed NFL Commisioner Roger Goodell that they plan to revolutionize the future landscape of NFL playbooks league-wide. The plan involves implementing a completely new offensive philosophy, in which the team will field an offense made up entirely of quarterbacks. This new wrinkle, combined with the masturful wizardry known as "Jon Grudens' Play Calling", will stifle and confuse even the most accomplished NFL defensive minds. Bucs Defensive Coordinator Monte Kiffen, after meeting with Gruden this afternoon, has released the following statement: "Jeez! I don't know what to say... that playbook makes me feel about as intelligent as John Madden sounds on TV!!!". Roger Goodell could not be reached for comment, however Gruden plans to release more info at a press conference to be held tomorrow at 10am Eastern.
Posted by: The Man | March 04, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Couldn't afford it last year. Sure as hell can't afford it this year.
As far as the lack of free agent signings,
could it be that the better free agents just don't want to play for Gruden and Allen?
Posted by: Bill | March 06, 2008 at 09:39 AM