Bucs, Talib working through differences
We told you yesterday that the Bucs and Aqib Talib's agent were deadlocked in the first-round pick's contract negotiations.
That has since changed, and the sides have re-opened talks aimed at getting the No. 20 overall pick to camp in time for Friday afternoon's reporting deadline.
Second-round pick Dexter Jackson is still unsigned as is fifth-rounder Josh Johnson. The expectation is that Johnson's deal will get wrapped up by Friday. The outlook for Jackson is less clear.
Stay tuned throughout the day on Friday for updates on these and a host of other matters as players report in Celebration.



As I gaze into my crystal ball, what do I see? Johnson done by 1pm, Jackson done by 4, and Talib in the middle of the night Friday. Talib makes the first practice on Saturday. It’s not like this exact same scenario hasn’t played out before, only like every season since Allen has been here. The only interesting thing about it is the media still thinks it’s newsworthy to tell us “nothing happening yet, but anytime now”.
Posted by: Valrico Rick | July 25, 2008 at 12:46 AM
Valrico, read the other articles on this blog about this situation and you will see that Allen and company have not, since they have been in Tampa, failed to sign any draft pick on time, that is before the beginning of training camp. Talib (and the other two) may break that streak as camp looms ahead on Friday, but don't say silly things. Why didn't you see this mistake in that crystal ball of yours? I am so glad the Cowboys don't have issues like this, both with management and ignorant fans. Go Cowboys!!! Oh by the way, what does your ball reveal about week 8 when the Bucs come to Dallas? Mine shows complete domination by the Cowboys (what else would you expect?)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe Gruden will wise up (however unlikely that is) and just forfeit (save himself the embarrassment). Perhaps I should send him a note with a picture of my crystal ball.
Posted by: DR | July 25, 2008 at 01:24 AM
DR needs to shut up now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: DR sucks | July 25, 2008 at 02:00 AM
dumb ***
Posted by: DR sucks | July 25, 2008 at 02:02 AM
i still dont understand why we drafted jackson. yes he has great speed. But he isnt the best wr. and that is where we needed help. speed at wr. not speed at kr. i am sure he will be a very good kick returner and he will provide some great plays over his career here in tampa, but we could have picked him up later in the draft and gotten a wr who was more ready to play wr at this level. whatever...just get him signed and in camp.
Posted by: aaron | July 25, 2008 at 06:36 AM
Kurt, although it may be you, it appears my envious fans have come back to impersonate me.
As far as these rookies being signed, it should be no problem, the Bucs have plenty of money to get the job done. Again, the CBA is more than likely the hold up since the contract will have to be set up correctly to adjust to the probable no cap year.
Right now, the Week 8 match up doesn't look good for the Bucs but that is 3 months away, which is 3 years in a football season. Who knows, Pacman might be in jail for shooting 3 strippers and TO may have offed himself by then. I can only guarantee you that Roy Williams will be defending nobody downfield as usual.
Posted by: DR | July 25, 2008 at 07:38 AM
Wow DR you are finally understanding that the cowboys are overrated. You know they say admiting you have a problem is hardest part. Congrats! Anyway the everyone knows talib, jackson, and johnson are going to get signed.
Posted by: Yoshi | July 25, 2008 at 08:40 AM
Aaron, I totally agree! We used a second round pick on a kick returner at best? We had a chance to pick Ray Rice or Brian Brohm at the time also. Both are franchise type players.
Unless he turns out to be a Devin Hester like player, this looks like a bad pick. I hope they prove me wrong.
Posted by: Tom | July 25, 2008 at 08:46 AM
yeah, he may very well turn out to be a devin hester, or a Ted Ginn JR. i hope he turns out to be a hester. but i dont think he will be a another galloway. even though spurlock returned that kick to the endzone and ensure his place in Bucs history i still think jackson will be an upgrade over him. anyways get him signed, bruce.
Posted by: aaron | July 25, 2008 at 09:06 AM
aaron, you can't knock Ginn Jr just yet. He's only in his second year but he did look like a waste. Hopefully Jackson won't be a Jaquez Green.
Yoshi, you obviously don't understand english. where did i say the 'boys are overrated? The 'boys are the favorites to win the nfc. They won 13 games last year. They choked but aren't overrated. Just remember, the bucs have never won 13 games in a regular season.
Posted by: DR | July 25, 2008 at 10:01 AM
Maybe Talib is using the financial planning skills he learned at The Rookie Symposium. Let's hope Bruce Allen doesn't get punched, on second though maybe Allen deserves a punch or two...
Posted by: Counsel Rudolph | July 25, 2008 at 11:06 AM
I think Jackson might be OK for a second round pick, he has speed. Jackson's value as a kick returner will help us save a roster spot this year while he's coached into better route running etc.
Why do so many of you assume that Jackson is a lousy receiver?
so many doomsayers on here.
Posted by: Herb | July 25, 2008 at 11:12 AM
Well, Herb, I'm not writing off Jackson. However, to spent a 2nd round pick for a guy that is slated for kick return duties. Can you name many small WRs other than Steve Smith that have been any good? I can't. Plus, Ray Rice or Brohm was on the board. Do you remember what Rice did to USF? He's a stud.
DR, the boys won a bunch of regular season games, but none that mattered in recent history. They are playoff chokers.
Posted by: Tom | July 25, 2008 at 11:19 AM
DR you are absolutely right the bucs have never won 13 games but hey, at least weve won a playoff game in the last decade. Oh yea, i almost forgot we also won a superbowl. Who the hell cares what record you have. The patriots had the best record at 16-0 and lost in the superbowl so basically the whole season is worthless. The only thing a better record does is make you look like a even bigger choker when you lose (i.e TONY HOMO). The only thing that matters is the ring. DR i already crushed you in the cadillac article on the 17th dont make me do it again. Come holla at me when you get on ma level SCRUB!
Posted by: Yoshi | July 25, 2008 at 11:59 AM
Small Recievers... how bout Gallaway, glenn, or macardell to name a few.
Posted by: The O man! | July 25, 2008 at 01:08 PM
Yoshi, haha! you're too funny! I already said the Cowboys choked, there is no denying that. It's funny how you guys live in 2003 like the super bowl happened yesterday. You guys have been slop ever since. The years the bucs went to the playoffs, they put up terrible offensive numbers and got beat at home with an offensive coach who has yet to put any offense as of yet. Then make every excuse in the book for losing and every excuse for why the offense sucks. You still blame ghosts who have nothing to do with the miserable offensive woes. A fifth grader can predict grudens offense. I don't care how many players he puts in motion, his offense flat out sucks. I'd rather see Mike Martz calling plays. Oh yeah, his offense is so complicated that it goes nowhere fast.
You dominated me on Caddy, hahaha! How so? What has Caddy done that Ki-Jana Carter didn't do? The ROY award that means nothing? The Bucs were dreamers when they drafted an overrated RB that didn't carry a load in college.
Posted by: DR | July 25, 2008 at 01:47 PM
Don't forget that the Bucs have lost their last two playoff games at home and the 'boys lost one at home and one on the road. The bucs are chokers as well.
Posted by: DR | July 25, 2008 at 01:50 PM
Tom,
Juswt because you THINK Brohm and Rice were studs, doesn't make it so. Just because they are the only recognizable names to many casual fans, that hardly makes them any better than those chosen before them.
Devin Hester was a 2nd round pick as well, of course Jackson is a far better WR than Hester was as a CB or WR or RB in college.
Why would we take Ray Rice or Brohm? Did we need a 5th RB behind Graham, Dunn, Bennett, Williams (let us not forget Askew)? As for Brohm, was it his sordid injury history or lack of mobility that makes you think he was great? He would be QB #5 for us.
Tom, if you were a GM for a team I'm sure year-after-year you would have great #1 picks, but that is only because you would be picking in the top 5 every season, stick to bowling!
Posted by: Brandon | July 25, 2008 at 02:23 PM
Hahahahahaha the Cowboys beat us hahaaha you guys have like the weakeast D line in football . Earnest Graham will run the pig skin right over your D . besided you know jessica simpson is going to be there so overated cant win a big game Romo will blow it and TO will start to cry and everything will fall apart and we will crush your Cowboys
Posted by: O_Line | July 25, 2008 at 02:51 PM
So is DR a fan of the Bucs or not? I see you posting all the time on the site only to start bashing the team if the subject of the Cowboys even comes up. Either way, keep posting. I enjoy the insight (Clayton SHOULD be the #1 WR).
Posted by: Krutch | July 25, 2008 at 03:02 PM
Tom, there have been plenty of small receivers to make a name for themselves; Santana Moss, Chris Chambers, Wayne Crebet (may have mis-spelled that), Wes Welker, Laveranues Coles, and Lynn Swann (let us not forget Rod Tidwell) all of whom are under 6'0", and there are plenty more out there I am sure I am leaving out. Point is, not every 6'4" + WR is going to go down as one of the best ever (see Mike Willams) and not every receiver under 6'0" should be written off (see Joey Galloway). Give Dexter Jackson a chance before saying he's no good.
Posted by: Trevor | July 25, 2008 at 03:08 PM
Oh man where do i begin? DR talks as if the cowboys have dominated the nfl for years when they have been just as bad, if not worse than the bucs. They JUST got decent 2 years ago. Like i said on anotha comment, the only reason the cowboys are any good now, is because they have all the troublemakers that nobody wants. Easy as that. You also criticize the bucs offense when everyone, except you, knows that the bucs have always been a defensive team. So i dont know what you are talking about when you say we blame the bucs mediocre offense on "ghosts" when that has never been the bucs forte. You also like to talk about how we lost two playoff games at home while clearly forgetting to mention all the playoff games the cowboys have lost in the last decade or how they missed the playoffs completely. When it comes down to it if you match up the cowboys offense (which depends on the passing game) to the bucs number one passing defense or number two total defense, the bucs would come out on top! You know what they say "offense wins games, defense wins championships". If you need an example look no further than the pats vs. the giants. Damn DR... thats two times i crushed you. Like i said... GET ON MA LEVEL SCRUB!!!
Posted by: Yoshi | July 25, 2008 at 04:54 PM
yoshi i have to make a change to your quote
"Defense wins championships, offense puts fans in the seats"
defense(which the bucs have)can score TDs and prevent TDs. Offense(which D block has) just fills up the stands. I know your a die-hard Hurricane fan(and so am I)and you should very well know that you can win games based solely on defense(remember The "U" won those 5 national championships with defense)
Posted by: shane | July 25, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Thanks Krutch, these guys can't see past whatever decision Gruden makes. According to these guys if Gruden wants Galloway as the #1 WR, than Galloway must be the best WR ever and gets open all the time. That screen pass on 3rd and 12 that goes for 4 yards, well it was just luck that the defense stopped it.
Yoshi, you're too funny. Romo sucks and yet threw 5 TDs against the best pass defense and slaughtered the Bucs after spotting them 7 points. And yes, you guys were predicting a win for the Bucs. The Cowboys have a bad d line? Really? Do you remember the games the Bucs played last year when Kitna had all day to throw the ball even though the Lions O-line was the worst? The Cowboys are only good because they got what nobody else wanted? Sounds like jealousy to me.
Posted by: DR | July 26, 2008 at 09:32 AM
...ask Michigan about Dexter Jackson
Posted by: TL | July 26, 2008 at 08:29 PM
DR did you forget that tampa's pass defense(the entire defense actually) in 2006 was horrible? Remember who we had starting that year?
D-line: Rice, Hovan, McFarland, Spires
Linbackers: Brooks, Quarles, Nece
Secondary: Barber, Buchanon, Allen, Phillips
If I remember correctly that D-Line couldn't harass any QB or get any penetration whatsoever which made our secondary horrible. And speaking of secondary remember what kind of year Flip was having(he couldn't cover my 80-year old grandma that year) and Will Allen is just awful(notice he's not starting anymore). Also our linebacker's corps was horrible that year(with the usual exception of Brooks, who made the Pro Bowl) two of the starters from that year no longer start(in one case is retired) and were replaced with better players (Ruud and June)
Posted by: Shane | July 27, 2008 at 09:51 AM
Damn DR have you sunk so low as to actually brag about beating the Bucs in 2006 which by the way was not the number 1 pass defense at all, so get your facts straight. Ma homey shane already broke it down to you, so im not even going to bother shutin you up AGAIN. Ok im lying, yes i will. Thats funny how you mention our d-line being bad and us losing to a sorry team when you guys definitely got worked by philly with an o-line who gave up 12 sacks in a game. No but really DR congrats on your win against the bucs sorry defense two years ago, what a tremendous monument to tony romos skill. What was i even thinking lol? Oh and by the way thats three times you've gotten crushed. Keep the comments coming though, it makes me feel good educating you lol. Big ups to my fellow UM fan shane.
Posted by: Yoshi | July 27, 2008 at 08:03 PM