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Give us your take on the Bucs 30-21 win over the Packers. Include your name and hometown and you'll have a chance to see your comments in tomorrow's paper.

Comments

[doug]

Obviously, we should be concerned about the INT's. That's a huge negative.

The defense is playing really good, except for giving up the occasional big play -- which championship teams don't give up on a regular basis.

The running game is really good, especially late in the game. Graham should have 1,200+ yards this year.

[Leo in Canada]

You keep the stats...I'll take the WIN. .750 in the first quarter of the season. And it could not be more exciting. It is a true roller coaster watching & listening to the Bucs games this year. So far.
Burlington, Ontario

[Hammer]

Two words. Derrick Brooks

[DV]

Before you tools start complaining too much about Griese, remember the team is 3-1, it is a TEAM effort all the way, including the head coach. As far as the interceptions go, remember the Chicago D is still very respectable, and the Packers D is a huge reason the team went 13-3 last year. Regardless, this team has an attitude and a swagger we haven't seen in years. Griese seems to inspire confidence in his teammates despite his shortcomings, and that's a quality no other QB on this team can currently provide.

[John Klopfer]

Play of the game: Gaines Adams taking a knee after his interception. He was aware enough to realize that the Packers would have tried to strip the ball. Brilliant move!

[Brandon]

DV, you're freaking delusional. If that bum had played even average football the last two weeks, we blow the Packers AND Bear out. He flat out sucks for reasons that I have documented numerous times. When defenses challenge our receivers in the shortzones, Griese sucks.

Don't give us any horsecrap about inspiring teammates, he is freaking awful and Gruden pretty much benched him by showing that psuedo-QB no faith by not allowing him to throw in the last two drives, opting for running plays only and a QB draw instead of risking having that turd throw another pass.

Where's that douche, Kurt, and his moronic comments about how great Griese is? HEY KURT! YOUR BOYFRIEND IS A BUM!!!!!

[Henry]

Certainly happy that the Bucs won; we've now defeated to mediocre teams.

Griese is NOT a good QB, and I don't say this just because he has tossed 6 INT's in the last two games. The man has been in the league for 11 years and his career totals are 118 TD's and 98 INT's. Nobody with that history has a chance to get this team to the Super Bowl. Moreover, when we have to play good teams, they will eat our lunch with Griese under center.

Jon Gruden (aka Napoleon), the little general with the outsized ego, needs pull his head out of his butt and get Garcia back in there, or this season isn't going to end as well as it started.

Great defense, they played like champions but passing offense struggles again...offense is bringing the team down...there is no deep threat receiver and they cant get open. I think our defense will keep us in every game , therefore offense needs to improve to stay on field longer and finish drives.

[Mr. Ed......Strahan]

The defenthe played ekthellent. Gwiethe sthill scares me. Whath going on with the turf in that sthadium? heeeee---hawwww.

[bobbyd]

John,
That was a GREAT play, but I think the play of the game has to go to Donald Penn who chased down Tramon Williams after the Griese interception in the 3rd quarter. If not for that tackle, that was 7 points for the Packers. The Bucs D managed to stop the Packers on the ensuing drive and gave up zero points.

[Stephen]

A win is a win and I'll take them. Greise's whole career has been this way in that he cannot seem to shake that one or two big mistakes that has shadowed him. I would agree we have been able to overcome these mistakes with great defense but the last 2 wins should have been blowouts and due to mistakes we are leaving alot of offense on the field. This team should win the division but they sure like to take the hardest road to get there. Solid start to the season. Go Bucs!!

[Joseph Feldman (Toronto, Ontario, Canada)]

The Buccaneer's Defense was just to much for the Packers. I can't think of many bad things to say about our defense. 1 Defensive Touchdown (Jermaine Phillips), 3 interceptions (Barrett Ruud, Derrick Brooks, and Gaines Adams) and 3 sacks (Kevin Carter, Barrett Ruud, Jimmy Wilkerson).

Our offense did not play amazing however. Our offensive line was amazing, now not allowing a sack in 97 pass attempts. Griese threw 3 bad interceptions, and went 50% throwing. In terms of running the ball, Dunn had a good game all around, but Graham was ineffective up until the 4th quarter, where he just broke out!

Our Special teams did a lot better this week. Dexter Jackson looked fearless when returning the ball, and his blocking was really good. Matt Bryant went 3/3 (23, 24, 36) although being questionable all week.

GAME BALL: Matt Bryant decided to play in Sunday's game after his family tragedy and kicked three field goals and three extra points.

[GEORGE IN LARGO]

IN LOOKING AROUND THE NFL, THE BUCS BREAKS, ONE WAY OR AN OTHER AREN'T MUCH DIFFERANT THAN ANY OTHER TEAM; DEFENSE IS. THREE MORE QUARTERS LIKE THE FIRST AND WE CAN LOOK FORWARD TO DIVISION CHAMP HATS (NOT THE SAME CRAPPY HATS THE AL EAST CHAMP RAYS GOT STUCK WITH).
12 & 4. GO BUCS.

[Brad]

Henry,

Good point on the TD/INT ratio... Only there's a problem: There's a quarter back in NY that leads the NFL in career TD's and INT's and he DID get his team to the Superbowl--twice!

[Carmine]

HENRY, dude, napeolean was right on target!! Brandon, couldn't have said it better.

The Bucs are winning DESPITE Brian Griese. He is adequete at best, or a journeymen QB, back-up, whatever you want to call him, but DON'T call him a starting NFL QB, or a winner, or an 'inspiration"?? are u kidding me? lol!

Gruden needs to lead this team back to Garcia, soon... and hopefully Johnson or McCown step up in the next year or so.

Derrick Brooks turned the clock back today, Great game, Rhonde... seems to be watching dexter Jackson too much, but D. Jacks looked good today..

[Frank]

DV, you are completely wrong!! Griese is only making up for mistakes that HE made. Ball control.....Gruden preaches it all the time. His INT's are devastating in impact. Griese is a disaster and the Bucs continue to win... Thank you Monte Kiffin!!!!

[Mr. Ed......Strahan]

The defenthe played ekthellent. Gwiethe sthill scares me. Whath going on with the turf in that sthadium? heeeee---hawwww.

[jay feeley]

Derrick is playing like he's 27 again and Gaines is playing like a linebacker but Barb is playing like he needs to be taken behind the woodshed.

[Geoff]

I am really proud of this team. I like how our defense is playing, I like how mean our offensive line is, and Graham and Dunn appear to be great one, two punch. However, I am really sick of people putting Gruden down.

Everyone forgets this, but we all hated Tony Dungy when he kept losing to Philadelphia in the playoffs, and now we believe he is way better than Gruden. I mean for christ sake, this is Gruden's 7th season and in the previous 6 seasons, he has coached the Buccaneers to 3 division titles in those 6 years, and won the Superbowl. I wish we could all just rally around him and support his decision about Griese, because the fact of the matter is that even though Griese has thrown 6 INTs, he has thrown 4 TDs, and is 3-0 this season. We all loved him in 2005 when he quarterbacked the Bucs to a 5-1 record before he got hurt.

Anyway, Go BUCS and I'm looking foward to the rest of the season.

[DV]

Brandon... you are one of the tools I was referring to. Who would you rather have as QB? Happy Feet Garcia is impatient and doesn't let plays develop, plus he is selfish and not a team player. McCown needs more experience, but I'd sooner put him in than Garcia. Bottom line is the team is winning, and you can tell Griese is having fun, and is a respectful team mate, and that makes his teammates play hard for him.

[Kevin]

Great win. Gaines Adams was expected to be great this season and he has yet to prove anyone wrong. Our defense is amazing. Can't beat 'em. I love Griese, I feel he can lead our team to victory and I won't waver from that thought. We all shouldn't. He's our quarterback and we need to give him our support. 3-0 so far. I like that stat.

[DV]

Henry,

Good point on the TD/INT ratio... Only there's a problem: There's a quarter back in NY that leads the NFL in career TD's and INT's and he DID get his team to the Superbowl--twice!

Posted by: Brad

Dude, I almost said the same thing but decided not to! Thanks for making that point. Bottom line is Griese is having fun, which is contagious... a quality that #4 has.

[Brian]

great win--the Bucs are cetainly one of the top 5 teams in the NFC, notwithstanding Griese. He sucks. Why do you think so many teams have let him go instaed of making him their starter--CAREER BACKUP! Gruden needs to get over hi sego and od what is best for the team and play Garcia--or maybe even McCown. At least he can accurately throw the ball more than 25 yards, and he can run. He won't make nay more mistakes than Griese.

The defense is championship caliber, as is the running game--the passing game will sink this team if not fixed!!!

[Stop Hatin']

GARCIA IS PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY INCAPABLE OF PLAYING TO THE LEVEL HE WAS AT LAST YEAR!!! STOP CALLING FOR GRIESE'S HEAD!!! That is all.

[Swamp Rat]

The 3 INTs concern me. What concerns me even more is what happens when #55 retires? Even so, I will always support my Bucs.

Brad posted:

"Good point on the TD/INT ratio... Only there's a problem: There's a quarter back in NY that leads the NFL in career TD's and INT's and he DID get his team to the Superbowl--twice!"
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Just when I thought Brad understood the point of a ratio...
Farve has thrown 458 TD's and 295 INT's. Those are the stats of winner!

Once again, Griese has thrown 118 TD's and 98 INT's. Those are the stats of a loser.

[DV]

Hey, no named poster... did you watch every game? So, you do realize that NOT EVERY INTERCEPTION IS GRIESE'S FAULT? Like the ones that bounce off recievers' hands or chests? Tool.

[Drew]

Give the Kid a chance to become a franchise QB. If Luke is given the chance he may our best shot at a franchise QB. Great ARM, Great Feet, but does make the occasional idiotic mistake.

Griese on the other hand makes more than the occasional idiotic mistake. No Arm, No Feet...

A franchise QB and this team becomes the darlings of the NFL for years to come.

[Vince]

Logic dictates that with a Defense that will turn the ball over, and a QB that is throwing a lot of INt's yet getting a lot of yards, that the bucs become a Big play explosive team! Jumping out to an early lead and letting the Defense hit the field with a 17 point lead will make this team almost unbeatable! With a decisive lead, the Bucs QB will actually have to throw fewer passes, and can rely at that point on the run game. Big yardage designed plays mean you have fewer attempts per yardage gained, and again, less likely to throw as many turn overs. With a mennacing defense, they can cover up for a few int's any day, but with a lead the bucs play calling is completely open, and the opponents play calling beccomes extremely limited. A coservative approach still means more pass attempts, and ergo more opportunities for int's, and never allows the team to sit build game momentum. Ironic that you could advise an int pron QB to throw more, but what I ultimately mean is fewer throws, bigger plays, and at least the defense will be in a position to play with a lead, as opposed to the defense playing just as hard, but without a lead as a result or 3 and out inept QB plays. A unique circumstance indeed!

[Jay Buc]

Garcia was benched and he looked better than this clown. Gruden didn't even trust him to throw a pass late in the 4th quarter when he entrusted the game to Dunn and Graham because it seemed he completed more passes to players in green than his own team-mates. How does this guy keep his job? The Bucs won in spite of him. Has he ever completed a pass over 10 yards? Pitiful

[Henry]

DV posted:

"Hey, no named poster... did you watch every game? So, you do realize that NOT EVERY INTERCEPTION IS GRIESE'S FAULT? Like the ones that bounce off recievers' hands or chests? Tool."

Believe it or not, DV, that comment applies to all QB's. If you don't think so, then you just haven't thought about it enough.

[Drew]

I think the positive comments posted about Brian Griese are coming from a MOLE planted on this site. That's you isn't it Bob Griese?

Make a note of this Bob Griese, we all got wise to Phil Simms and look what happened to Chris.

[RICK]

Garcia throws one int at the end of the NO game and gets benched...greasy throws 6 ints and papa gruden makes 1 excuse after another for him. what the hell did garcia do to be demoted to 4th string qb?

[Bob Griese]

Hey Y'all!!! Don't do us like Phil and Chris Simm's or we'll file an NFL grievance against the Buccaneer Fans.

[Ray]

Two words "Start Garcia."

[Kristine]

I don't think Jon will cut Ronde for polital purposes right now, but his role should be reduced big-time. We have 3-4 guys that are simply more effective at this point. I'm hoping Barber sustains a benign type injury that we can classify as something more sinister and thus take him off the field and let him go next year. Or appease him with a coaching spot or company car, etc. But he needs to be off the field ASAP.

[Rodney A. Westmoreland]

GO BUCS!! All you haters. Better believe now. Yeah the Offense has looked lethargic at times but they find a way to win. The D is looking good even though they gave up a lot of yards so far.

SPT: I told everyone to give D JaX a chance and now look at him. He even looked fearless at times. Still needs work but looking a lot better.

Griese: Give the man a break, 2 of those were off tips those are hard not to give up. The last 2 weeks let's face it 2 very good Defenses.

Graham: Is the man, I’ve always known he would be good.

Bryant, M: After his very tough week, he still was a professional and kicked really well.

Defense: is looking really good off turnovers, this team is going to hang with anybody and the offense does just enough to get Wins.

Brooks: Is not done yet I told everyone that Brooks is just fine just give him just a moment. Same thing for Ronde, He will be fine. Don't worry about Ronde.

Offense: If they get a healthy Galloway back soon and the way Bryant, A. is stepping up and Clayton. Look out everyone the Bucs are for real. Fire those cannons and get this thing going. I'm so excited about the BUCS!!

Gruden: Well Gruden is Gruden and he still can coach is butt off. All you haters remember for years the BUCS did not have the players they needed to run this complicated offense, now Gruden has it and is doing better and better every week.

3-1 I will take that any day. GO BUCS!! and oh YEAH FIRE THOSE CANNONS!!

[Sabby]

Right on Kristine!

[Hammer]

when does davin joseph come back? (watch out d-lines when he does)

[Drew]

To the Glazer Family,

Pay Garcia his BONUS from last year and at least sign him to a TWO Year contract.

Pull Griese and start Garcia!!!

[Jeff]

Go with Griese until they lose and it's his fault. He'll play well vs Denver, as they have no pass rush. Don't worry Garcia fans, we'll see him prancing on the field again this year. Hopefully, he won't be a little bit@# and plays for real this time.

[DV]

For all you Griese haters, how come I haven't heard any of you bitching about Barber giving up TD's? He's just as responsible for putting the team in bad situations the past few weeks. I'll tell you why. Because you give Barber a get out of jail free card for his past performances. If Griese needs to be benched, so does Barber. Talib is better at man coverage.

[Kevin]

Rodney! You're the man!! GO BUCS

[DV]

DV posted:

"Hey, no named poster... did you watch every game? So, you do realize that NOT EVERY INTERCEPTION IS GRIESE'S FAULT? Like the ones that bounce off recievers' hands or chests? Tool."

Believe it or not, DV, that comment applies to all QB's. If you don't think so, then you just haven't thought about it enough.

Posted by: Henry | September 28, 2008 at 07:15 PM

And you haven't thought about the fact that Garcia is a whiny @$s who wants the team to pay him money he doesn't deserve, while undermining the Head Coach by publicly mocking his play book. Selfish, and not a team player. Makes for a losing attitude. Meet the bench.

[sm2]

Griese is a bum! Tampa should have beat Green Bay by 30 points! Garcia must have said something about Gruden's mom for this situation to come to this. The Bucs have won every game this year in spite of Griese. If I were Garcia I would tell Gruden to pound off! Some of the shine is coming off Gruden this season.

[Brandon]

DV:

Barber hasn't been very good, but one thing he HAS done for us in the past is be a part of our defense which has carried us the past 12+ years. Barber has given up TDs each of the last 2 weeks... That's funny, who did more damage? Ronde giving up 7 points or Griese who accounted for 14 of the Packers points?

You said Griese is out there having fun? You mean he thinks it's fun to suck? As bad and rusty as Garcia looked in week 1, if he were QB'ing for us and not turning the ball over the past 2 weeks we would have blown out the Packer and Bears. Griese is only good enough to keep both teams in the game and that isn't good enough for a team that COULD be among the top teams in the NFC if it could only get AVERAGE QB play.

And no, not ALL of Griese's INTs are entirely his fault, though he throws enough other bad balls to make up for them... all QBs have INTs that aren't their fault, what's new? Griese has thrown 6 in 2 games and turned the ball over 7x in 3 games. It's time for a change.

[Jeff]

Realax Brandon, Griese is just getting his sea legs. He'll clean up his play as the year goes on. If not, Garcia is semi willing and waiting.

[Brandon]

What makes the team play hard for Griese is the fact that they know if they don't play hard, there will be no way to overcome the inevitable hole that that terrible QB will sooner or later put us into.

Barring injury, Gruden will likely switch starters this week or do something drastic with practice reps to get the backups ready. It was obvious Gruden lost all faith in that piece of dung masquerading as an NFL QB when he didn't let him throw on the gamewinning drive (which most Griese lovers will somehow attribute to him) and the final drive. Griese is done.

[Brandon]

Jeff,

Sealegs? Is that your rationale for why Griese has sucked for the past 4 seasons? The man is 33 years old with limited to no athletic ability but he supposedly makes up for it with smarts...despite the fact that he makes a lot of stupid decisions.... I know, I know, he puts the offense in the right play... the problem is that calling the right play doesn't matter if the bum can't execute.

Here's the newsflash, Griese will only play worse and worse, as he gets beat around and becomes less athletic and teams see that if they challenge the receivers he will struggle. This guy shouldn't be in the NFL.. his arm isn't even strong enough to hold the clipboard.

On a positve note, Dexter Jackson looked explosive, fearless and ran hard, I think we may finally have a returner.

[what]

RV Griese must give a great hand job