Receiver a position to watch during Buccaneers' offseason

We know the Buccaneers made wide receiver a priority this offseason given their decisions to designate Antonio Bryant their franchise player and to re-sign Michael Clayton to a long-term contract.

But what we haven't focused on is the steep dropoff at the position after what likely will be the Nos. 1 and 2 receivers.

Here's where things get cloudy. Joey Galloway and Ike Hilliard are long gone, released in the team's purge of veterans in late February. Meanwhile, Maurice Stovall, who is yet to catch more than 10 passes in a season, is coming off an injury -- again. Brian Clark, a special-teams star, returns. There's also seventh-round pick and potential draft gem Sammie Stroughter, who will have more than ample opportunity to break into the rotation. Little-known Cortez Hankton is still hanging around after going on injured reserve with a knee injury in the '08 preseason.

Beyond that, we're talking about a handful of so-called street free agents. Among them is former Georgia Tech standout Kelly Campbell and former USF star Amarri Jackson.

Oh, and I almost forgot: 2008 second-rounder Dexter Jackson's still on the roster, though he will have to make one amazing leap to escape his status as perhaps the worst draft pick of the Jon Gruden era.

The point is this: The receiver position is not at all deep, meaning the Bucs are going to have to get some unexpected production from some players who don't have a history of producing it at this level. Stovall remains an enigma, so perhaps we should reserve judgment. Clark is an interesting prospect, and maybe there's something to build on there. Same with Stroughter and Hankton. But each is a relative unknown to some extent.

Offensive coordinator Jeff Jagodzinski seems like the type who will, at least occasionally, try to stretch the field. That's the impression his players have gotten for sure. It's also something we saw a great deal of during the team's first mini-camp last month. So, it's likely a third receiver will loom large in this offense. Yes, the tight ends will catch A LOT of passes, too, especially with Kellen Winslow on board. My guess is they'll have to take up much of the slack for this very inexperienced receiving corps. But third-and-long situations often call for three-receiver sets, and someone has to be prepared to fill a role similar to that of Hilliard, a third-down specialist.

Who will it be? I have no idea. The Bucs have four months to figure it out.

Comments

[Ray]

I just want to make a comment on the Dexter Jackson thing. Had Gruden drafted Clifton Smith in the 2nd round of last year and signed Dexter Jackson off the street, I am willing to bet this would not have been an issue. With that said. Get off of it dude. We all know drafting players is not a prefect thing to do.

[Erick]

I'm intrigued by Stroughter and Jackson. There has to be a place for someone with Jackson's speed, he's faster than Bryant and Clayton, and I look forward to seeing what Stroughter can do if he's anything like what I've heard.

[e]

Is Paris Warren out of the picture? I'm sure there's going to be some interesting guys that will be cut from other roster before the season starts as well...
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[Erick]

I just watched some youtube clips of Stroughter and that guy has some serious skills. His punt returns are awesome, not that that is really a need, but it shows his mobility. And twists his body all over the place to make catches. I'll put money on him making the team.

And as far as Jackson, he IS a bust in that he was drafted for a purpose and failed miserably at it. He may still become a decent receiver but there are a ton of other guys they could have gotten that were studs last year, like Desean Jackson.

[Vince]

Stephen, might have been more accurate to call DJ the worst pick of the Bruce Allen era.

[OAR]

e,
paris Warren was released to make room for some new free agent signings. Might get re-signed or signed to practice squad?
As for Stroughter, we'll have to see. I just find it hard to believe if he's that good, why he fell to 7th rnd.

Erick,
DeSean was off the boards along with Royal, Thomas, and Nelson. So we would have had to trade up in the second round to get him or the others. So not sure what your trying to say?

[Willycp]

Let's remember that Dexter Jackson was a WR and was not used at all at that position with the BUCS, they tried to make him a returner specialists but failed. We have not seen DJ play the WR at all, so i say give him a chance in this new offense. Simpler offense by the way...

[BucFandango]

I believe Stroughter fell for a couple reasons. He is small, only about 5'-9" and 170#s. He also sat out the 07' season for severe depression and a lacerated kidney. Supposedly he took medication for the depression, and many teams saw that as a red flag. Re: JoeBucsFan.com has a very good bio on Sammy. His coach at Oregon raved about his upbeat style and self motivation. Said he was the best thing since toast and jam. He was another one of the "Bucs" targeted guys, and rumors are they would have taken him in the 6'th round if they still had the pick. They say he owns the "slot". I like the new blood at WR. Stovall is a Special Teams ace, and I like Clark, but Warren, D.Jackson, Hankton and the others can all go in my eyes.

[OAR]

Well that makes sense then about his fall. I do hope the Stroughter kid and D Jackson work out then, cause after Antonio we have NO ONE! And I don't want to hear about the guy we overpaid to block.

[Joe]

I disagree completely with one point in the article about the steep dropoff after Clayton. The steep dropoff is after Bryant. Clayton is part of the dropoff. Hopefully, Stroughter will be the Eddie Royal of this year.

[bigdog]

i have to say clark will be the 3rd wr

[Big Coop Dogg]

I Cant beleive the Bucs past up on Louis Murphy. He was right there for the picking. He is 6'2", 210, and he is a hometown product with a good track record. I thought for sure the Bucs would have picked him. Would have been good to see Bryant, Winslow, Murphy and Clayton.

[Randy C]

Williecp,

Jackson is afraid of contact. Unless he has had a life altering event he will remain useless. How our scouts could not pick this up is amazing!

[Stephen Holder]

Ray, if I'm making a blog post about the lack of depth at WR, then the conversation would be incomplete without pointing out that picking Jackson was a bad decision. Even Gruden has now admitted it.

Vince, fair enough. Whoever you blame it on, it was not a good move.

[Stephen Holder]

Joe, I agree Clayton hasn't had big numbers in the last several years, but at least he can say he's played in big games and has caught some balls against tough defenses. The other guys have no accomplishments to speak of whatsoever. That's why I put Mike in a different category.

[BucFandango]

I agree on Michael Clayton. He improved last year with his hands and reliability. One of the factors in the loss to the Panthers was the blocks their receivers were making. With the right coaching (hopefully what Jagz brings) this offense could score 30 points per game. I want to see how Penn looks, if he has buffed up. If so, that's awesome. If not, I want to see the youngsters take his spot. I don't see any other weakness on the offense, even at QB. This Stroughter Kid could be the next Steve Smith.

[e]

Thanks OAR for the Warren info...

I think that there were players on the team the last couple of years that didn't succeed because they didn't fit into Gruden's scheme. I think Clayton could be on of those guys. I think we'll see more out of him this year.
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[tc_buc_king51]

ill bet clayton has a break out year under jags offense.
And word around the NFL is the bucs have had intrest in bringing in Joe Horn, Steve Wyche reported from nfl.com so who knows? we brought in bryant last year after he was off a year and you seen what he did, maybe Horn could do the same?

[Adam]

Anyone who predicts a big season from Clayton knows NOTHING about football. I have NEVER been a Clayton fan - from the day he was drafted. STEPHEN JACKSON WAS ON THE BOARD WHEN BRUCE ALLEN PICKED THAT NO-TALENT WASTE OF SPACE. The guy has more excuses than Exxon's Alaskan Field Rep. The Bucs have ONE receiver and they should do everything possible to broker a trade for Anquan Boldin - an FSU guy, born and raised in FLA, Mr. Football and Basketball, can play QB and WR and would most likely welcome a return home.

Looking at the contract that Clayton signed, it is OBVIOUS he has pictures of one Glazers in a compromising position with a Nebraska Ave Streetwalker.

[Rube]

I have not given up on Dexter Jackson yet. I still think he would make a good 3rd option for whomever is QB. I expect a moderate year from Michael Clayton. I don't think he will ever match his great rookie season total, especially since Bryant is the man of the receiving corporation. He will have a year like last, especially since he never received his long term deal. After him though, somebody needs to step up. Even Kellen is somewhat of a question mark.

[John P]

The commentary about receiver is accurate. What will the Bucs do if Bryant, for whatever reason, doesn't stay healthy? We're truly one slight ankle twist away from having the worst receiver corps in the NFL. Because after Bryant, they might not have one player that would start, or make, another team.

As far as Dexter Jackson is concerned - he's not a bum for being drafted in the 2nd round. He's just a kid who had the misfortune of being overestimated. The sooner the Bucs let the guy move on, the sooner he can get on with his life.

[DR]

You guys will eat your words talking bad about Clayton. As far as the roster is concerned, Clayton has proven he is the only other guy who CAN and HAS put up an 80 catch 1,200 yard year. Clayton is out of Gruden's dog house and will be able to be himself.
Adam, if you know anything about football, according to your comments you don't, Clayton had a great year when they were throwing him the ball. Anybody should be able to realize the fact that since then, Clayton for whatever reason became less of the game plan. Those people who say he has no hands have no stats to prove it. Galloway had the worse hands on the team and wouldn't even fight for the ball to help his QB.
Dexter Jackson was a bigger reach than the Raiders reach for Heyward-Bey at 7th overall, but I would like to believe that he could be the fast WR they need. Probably wishful thinking.
The Bucs need to find their QB. If Bryant and Clayton play to their capabilities and Winslow stays healthy, and they find a reliable fast guy who can stretch the field, the Bucs offense would be capable of doing anything and everything.

[aaron]

BucFandango, first off Sammie is fron OREGON STATE UNIVERSITY not Oergon. The ducks are a bunch of pansies that never pan out in the pros. (Kellen Clemons, Joey Harrington, Ontarrio Smith) The beavers put out some quality pros (Nick Barnett, TJ Houshmenzedah, Ocho Cinco, Derek Anderson, Steven Jackson) Straughter was a money player at OSU. As a punt returner and as a WR. He battled depression but has fought back against it. He is doing much better. He is a leader and a great guy for the locker room. Mike Reilly runs a pro style offense in Corvallis and it shows by the type of offensive players he puts into the pros. There are a # in Canada also. anyways sammie is prepared for the pro game and i am glad that they snagged him.

[conradbuff]

darrell jackson, matt jones, plaxico burress,amani toomer, reggie williams... there are a lot of wrs available that can come in and contribute immediatly theses are just a handful of the names available plus theres gona be a few more released before season. even still i dont really agree with this article bucs have young talent at wr and have said they want to see what they have so i think they will get there shot. and even still further the bucs are going 2 TE a lot this year anyway so there wont be a need for a 4wr set very often

[BucFandango]

Aaron, grow up son. Oregon State plays in OREGON... the state... below Washington... on the West Coast. Hello, is anybody there? I made no mention of Schools. I have been reading many articles about Sammie, and was posting from memory and passing on where the info came from. If your going to give lessons and play teacher, at least spell the words correctly. I'm not a fan of either team, never have been, never will be. I am a fan of every player that comes through 1 Buc Place, where players have to grow up and forget rivalries and hatred from the past. Everybody wears Pewter here and bleeds red. You can keep your green and your orange, Jr.

[tc_buc_king51]

DR, i couldnt agree with you more!
i know you are a true bucs fan and supporter!
ive always beleived in clayton i just know that hes in for a great year this year he has a new contract hes happy and he's out to prove the skeptics wrong!
there isn't alot of recivers capable of doing what he does this guy can block and strech the field for you, when hes on his game he can be dangerous!
There is two plays ill always remember clayton for the first is back in 06' when he caught the game winning TD againest the bengals and he put everything on the line to get that extra yard so we could score and second when we were in overtime last year against the chiefs when he caught that pass and scrambled for about 20-30 yards that ended up setting up the game winning field goal hes proven hes a big playmaker and from what i saw late last year hes starting to prove he can produce again after all the guy does have a touchdown streak still going!

[ref813]

I don't know how someone can say Clayton has no chance of succeeding. Did you see his first season? He was terrible for about 3 years and he started looking better again last year. I don't know about the whole doghouse excuse, but he may have really had an issue with Gruden that somehow distracted him. It's inexcusable, either way. If he plays well again, great. If not, we're in a bit of trouble.
The rookie we got was apparently on his way to being a 1st or 2nd rounder before the depression/kidney laceration. Let's hope he works out. He doesn't have the speed to be Steve Smith, but he could be the next Welker. They had the same 40 time. Stovall is one of the best special teams coverage guys in the league, so we need him. I hope he can stay healthy and learn to catch a few balls.

[John P]

I don't think anyone here is looking at Clayton for what he could do - I think people knock him for what he has done. He's dropped a lot of passes - Gruden didn't cause that. If he dropped passes because Gruden 'ruined' him - then he's not that focused in the first place.

He played a great rookie season. But whatever happened since then has made him a different player. A good blocker, definitely. But you need very reliable hands in a #2 receiver. If you don't have the hands, then the blocking skills don't really matter. Without good hands, he's a #4, or #5 receiver. At best.

I think they're going to give him a shot, obviously - considering his new contract. But if he gets the drops again this year, then he'll be yanked by Morris as fast (or faster) than Gruden used to do.

[BucFandango]

I think this year has the makings to be the best Bucs' offense in years, possibly ever. One key is going to be, as always, staying healthy. The Bucs have been beat up the last several years and they have to find a way to keep the best players on the field and out of the training room. How quickly can they adapt to the zone blocking scheme, with the RB's having more flexibility. Red Zone productivity, calling the right plays, and executing them without mistakes. If the QB play is good and the receivers are even moderately proficient, they can have real success and win games. This is not a 4-12 team. This is 9-7 team that has improved in many areas. No knocks on the players who have gone, but their draft looks pretty good and they have filled some holes, especially with Derrick Ward. Look out for him and Wam Bam Slam You Graham. I see potentially 2-1000yd backs and they have O line depth for once.

[jerseybuc]

I think you will see Jeremy Stevens AND Kellen Winslow on offense at the same time, especially in the red zone. Surprised that hasn't been brought up.

[DR]

John P, please provide with me with a stat that supports your claim that Clayton drops "many" passes. There is none because nobody has provided it. I found a site but it supports what I say, and that is Clayton wasn't even in the top 5 on the Bucs team last year in dropped passes. The lovable Dunn had one of the worst hands in the league last year, but I'll give him a pass on that too.
Jerseybuc, the reason your idea hasn't been brought up is because Stevens is a back up TE at best and Winslow is a pro bowl TE. Stevens isn't even close to Winslow in talent. I'm not even sure why Stevens is even on the roster. He's done nothing his entire career. Look at his stats and laugh.

[aaron]

Bucfagdaygo, you said " His coach at Oregon raved about his upbeat style and self motivation." When you say "at" that infers that he went to the oregon ducks. If you meant the state then you would have said "while in Oregon." You overreacted and made yourself look a little foolish. Take it easy man. I like everybody that comes thourgh 1 Buc Place also. So woop de fickin doo. Even when Justin Phinisee came though (another Oregon Duck who failed) i rooted for him. If you are going to be an expert then you need to get your info right. You make youself look like a fool when you state the wrong school. and it happens to be the rival. anyways, get a life man.

[BucFandango]

Good point Aa on the "at vs in". I guess I should have went back to the report to get the EXACT fact of the matter. He might be 5'-9 1/4" and 172 lbs, now that you mention it. I saw the Oregon "St" as a very insignificant fact. I had no earthly idea we had a left coast beaver cleaver in the house. If I had a life I would move to Oregon, grow weed, get baked, and watch sucky football games.

[STIXX]

Hey...easy boys...I think the BUCS should try and grab JOE HORN and another good veteran WR just to make training camp more interesting.

[aaron]

yeah kind of like Florida and Florida State...you know what's the difference right? So Sabby played in "sucky" football games at college. And Nick Barnett, steven jackson, Tj, Ocho Cinco, or old buc Robb Thomas. they played sucky football. Nice vocabulary by the way. You are definitly from FLA.

[DR]

Looking at the other posts, and still laughing! Kurt actually pushed the rock to the side and made a comment after his hero was fired. LOL! What a gutsy statement Kurt, McCown will be the starter, well, he is the starter as of right now. Let me guess, you're going to say Bryant will be the starting WR? Where is your boy Skylar? Oh yeah, that was your fake alter ego. LOL! It's great to see you back with your rambling contradictory statements. I see you and mOARon get along well. You guys would do well on the Manchester United blog.

[Robert]

This could be something great for our team. These guys all know that there are spots to be won at WR. That can create some great competition and maybe we will see one of these guys brace the opportunity and make a name for themselves. If we can find another potential threat out of those guys that can line up oppositte of AB and really stretch the field it would be great. It would definetly enable winslow and clayton to work the middle of the field and it would also be very beneficial to the run game! I guess we will start to find out more about how this team will look here in the near future!

[BucFandango]

AA, are you kidding me? Comparing the Sucks and the Beavers to the Gators and Seminoles is like apples to oranges. The list of top notch players from the big Florida schools is a mile long. The guys you named are one step above busts, just like their programs there. Sabby is OK, but not great. I hope he does better this year. Go back and watch some film Jr. Ocho Sucko is all mouth and done nothing for the Bengals except run his suck constantly. He's useless. TJ has a couple OK years, but again, where's the rings? the championships? the leadership? Not there. Nick Barnett? Did he even play in 08'? That's right another injury guy like Steven Jackson... with no ring, no title, no championship. Wow, I'm really losing this argument. Would you like me to start naming Famous Championship Winning Gators & Noles, Players, Coaches??? This is like playing poker and you're all in with a pair of deuces. C'mon man, get some sleep dude. Oregon... excuse me, Oregon State just isn't it when it comes to Football. They have a few good players but, Florida, Texas, California??? I do hope this kid, Stroughter is Superman, and BTW, isn't he from California? Who cares anyway? Here I try to give OAR some feedback, and you start talking trash, like a twelve year old, about some school that few people care about, and most have never heard of. If you love it so much, move back to Oregon...STATE, or stay there. Whatever dude.

[aaron]

Fandango-Point was lost on you. The point wasnt the caparing OSU and U of O to FSU and U of F. It was a point made so a simple Floridiot, could see that there is a difference between the two schools. There is a world outside the SEC and the ACC. To say that Ocho sucks is laughable. He is loud and obnoxious but he is good and again you look like a fool by saying he sucks. Your opinion that #85 sucks may apply more to his personality and not his skills. And as far as TJ goes to say he has had an OK couple years is funny. Go check your stats on that one again. Yeah Jackson has been banged up a bit over the past couple years but you would be too if you had an O-line like that. If you want to name name of famous Gators go ahead. In fact i will start it for you; Danny Weurful, Rex Grossman, Jaques Green, Chris Leak, Jabar Gafney, Steve Spurrier, and i know there are many more. those are a bunch of winners arent they Fandango? I will not mess with FSU, i respect them. But i respect Florida's program about as much as i respect your opinion. I wasnt trashing you to begin with. I was letting you know that there is a differrence between schools, which you should have been able to respect being from florida. But unfortunately you took it the wrong way and made yourself look simple. Anyways, i think sammie will make a good slot reciever for the Bucs. He has good hands and runs sharp routes. Keep up the homework Fandango on resarching the players. Maybe one day you will be an expert like you like to think you are. One day you can be this blogs resident expert and when we all have questions we can go to you instead of Stroud or the other writers. You win Fandango, you are this blogs biggest loser.

[DR]

C'mon, you guys are arguing over college football? Division I college football is the biggest joke out of any of the big sports because they have never had a true champion. The BCS is BS and hopefully congress will get rid of the frauds who run Division I football.
This is a WR blog so defending Florida is like arguing OJ didn't do it. Gator WRs and QBs turn out to be HUGE busts in the NFL. Harvin and Tebow next year have a bad stigma to get over.
Ocho Cinco doesn't suck, but he is way overrated. Not sure why he wore the HOF 20?? jacket because he will never make the HOF. That guy should rename himself Casper in big games.

[aaron]

I agree with everything you said DR. No argument here. How is that battle looking out there in Denver, with Simms and Orton? I hear both looked good tossing the ball. My money is on Simms...

[OAR]

Ah the almighty DR speaks, Happy
Mother's Day, you mother and what's up with the OJ obsession? Spin-DR let me explain why I and everone else that watches Bucs games do not need a stat
(proof) of your boy Clayton's dropped passes. I've seen all but 5 Buc's games in the last 10 years, missing 2 of Clayton's games from his lustrious career. Yes he has gotten better the last couple of years and does not drop everything, but he has dropped(again witnessed by my eyes) way more passes than he has caught or made big plays, period.
As for the Winslow/Stevens debate you constantly bring up. Im not debating/saying who's better or not, just stating facts here: Stevens has 10 more tds, has the same yards per catch 11, and at least Stevens plays every year and has been to playoffs and Super Bowl. That is something you always say about Galloway never winning playoffs is a big reason you hate him well look at Kellen he's never been.
BTW tc_buc_king51 two great/memorable plays over 71 games/201 catches is nothing to be proud of.

[DR]

mOARon, making the playoffs and super bowl means nothing when you kill your own team like Stevens did. You hate Clayton for "dropping" balls when Stevens is notorious for dropping balls. He's dropped many TDs for the Bucs and killed the Seahawks after Joey Porter humiliated him and Stevens was the talker-lol!
I don't care what you see with your eyes, You obviously don't know what a dropped pass is. You hate Clayton and expect him to catch everything, even terrible throws and you give Galloway and the rest of the WR/TEs passes because you like them. Crossing mid field at full speed and not catching a pass that is thrown behind you is not a dropped pass. A dropped pass is something like having the ball hit you in the chest and dropping it, like the TD Stevens missed against Carolina last year.
Comparing Stevens and Winslow just shows you know nothing about football. Stevens has played more ball and can only dream of Winslow's best year. In fact, Stevens needs two years to match Winslow's best year. I'll be surprised to see Stevens on the roster come Week 1. He really is a nothing at TE. Again, look at his stats and laugh. He's only in the league because of his size. His potential that he really doesn't have and will never live up to will finally reach the brains of the coaches and they will realize he is a wasted roster spot. The Seahawks were quick to rid their team of pure trash, trash that cost them a super bowl.
It won't be surprising to see Clayton have a big year after he is used more in the offense. Clayton will benefit from Winslow more than anyone else on the field.

[DR]

aaron, Simms does have a chance in Denver, but if he still has bad mechanics or decision making that gets a lot of balls tipped at the line of scrimmage, he won't last long. I still don't understand how a 6'4" QB gets so many balls tipped at the line of scrimmage. I think Denver will find a way to add another veteran QB to the roster to compete. Orton is a better game manager, decision maker, than Simms and he obviously will have the advantage with more recent playing experience. Simms will get a great chance to show off his downfield throwing ability with Royal, Marshall, and the other WRs. That will be what puts him over Orton if he does well.

[OAR]

Spin-DR again you spew before you think(well or at least you try), why don't you go ask these FLA/FSU/Miami players how thier "bust"-ful football careers are going or went:
Anquan Boldin, Laveranues Coles, Jabbar Gaffney, Ike Hiliard, Darrel Jackson, Chris Collinsworth, Nat Moore, Ernie Mills, Wes Chandler, Fred Biletnikoff, Brad Johnson, Brian Blades, Jim Kelly, Brett Berriman, Reggie Wayne, Jessie Hester, Berni Kosar, and wow look even one of your Cowgirls Michael Irvin .

[OAR]

Spin-DR, I don't know what a dropped pass is? You are hiliarious drinking early are we? I guess with you it's imagining is believeing not seeing huh?
Um.. Clayton DROPPED(in his chest and in his hands) passes, killing 4th qrtr drives in each of the last two games last year(not to mention others). I hope he does well but his history gives suspensions. If he does well people can't give Gruden the draft bust talk., cause he did have his best year(the one you use to defend him with) under him.
And "I still don't understand how a 6'4" QB gets so many balls tipped at the line of scrimmage" it's his delivery projection you a--. Linemen know where he's going to throw. He did it in college and will continue to do it. I think maybe its you that knows nothing.

[BucFandango]

Wow, awesome. I was getting my rump kicked by a twelve year old. My personal favorites are Derrick Brooks, Emmett Smith & Prime Time. Once I read "I agree with everything you said DR" I began to see the piture.

[DR]

mOARon, "it's his delivery projection", which is a problem with his throwing mechanics you mOARon!
Please name the games which Clayton dropped big passes. The Bucs lost in the playoffs two years ago when Galloway made no attempt to break up a pass in the end zone. Stevens dropped an easy TD last year against the Panthers. I'm being specific, why can't you? You speak in generic terms because you have no stats to prove your point.
If you know football, in Clayton's rookie year, Gruden had Clayton as a big part of the game plan. Since then, Clayton has been no part of the game plan. Maybe it's because Gruden was too busy playing with himself thinking about Galloway's "blazing" speed. The 40 yard dash means nothing in the NFL. There are planty of HOF WRs who supposedly didn't have speed.

[DR]

Bucfandungo jumps in about football knowledge and says Chad Johnson sucks, too funny! I don't like Chad Johnson as a person but he is one of the best WRs in the game. He's a selfish ball player but he is talented. To say he sucks is something a 12 year old would say.

[BucFandango]

Are you referring to the same Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson who had 540 yds receiving and 4 TD's in 2008? With production like that, he should have been the top player voted into the Pro Bowl, don't you think? Maybe I'm just ate up with Alzheimer's , but I seemed to remember Football as being a team sport, where the good of the Team is first and foremost. Me,me,me,I,I,I players like Johnson are a detriment to their team and the entire NFL. If you think that athletic ability is all that matters in TEAM sports, you are sadly mistaken. Players that put their needs above the needs of their team are useless in my book. C'mon guys, you're smarter than that. Find some better examples to back up your weak arguments. Chad does suck, no matter how talented he is, because he chooses to waste it. That is why he was so unproductive last year, not the QB delivering the ball, which he conveniently blamed. Film doesn't lie, facts don't lie, and great players and coaches win championships. Gruden won one, didn't he, but I know both of you feel you are superior to him. I will give you guys credit for one thing. I like your creativity with my screen name. I have to give you a well deserved B+ on that subject. So stick to name calling, you are much better at it.