Crist Talking Insurance, Finally

Charlie Crist stayed on the sidelines in the spring as legislators debated how to fix Florida’s battered insurance market. Now he’s paying for his silence. To read full story, click here.

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[Imadashell]

Davis has gotten traction on the insurance issue.2M in contributions to the Crist campaign by the ins industry.Crist stood by and watched the GOP and Gov jam a TERRIBLE bill down our throats and was mute.Now hell pay!The bill allows a 10% raise in premium without review.This bill was written bt lobbyists and NEVER DEBATED.Speaking to state legislators,Bense/Crist passed the anti consumer special interest bill in the last hour of the legislative session.PAYDAY BOYS ! PAYDAY!These are unrebutted undeniable FACTS.

[Gene Smith]

Charlie took another day off when the insurance bill was being debated. Just like he took the day off on Terry Schiavo.

Crist says his silence spoke volumes. I agree. When the tough issues come up, Charlie's silence tells me he's taking the day off again.

I'd rather see an occasional empty chair than a full time empty shirt.

[Imadashell]

Lets face it if Crist is,A SHILL FOR THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY.If elected he will STAY the couse..Those in S Florida and the coastal areas will continue to get Slammed by Crist and his allies..Im always amazed at how the GOP gets the middle class to vote against its best interests.We need some faith based proerty insurance!!!Crist will never criticize the insurance industry or deveolpers..THEY ARE FUNDING THE CAMPAIGN!

Gene, Imadashell,

Spinning again. Crist job was attorney general, not overseer of the legislature bills. If you can understand that.

[Gene Smith]

Charlie made sure to sheperd the Jessica Lunsford Act through the legislature. He worked them for his "anti-murder" bill. He says he pushed through his Civil rights bill.

Tom Lee is running for CFO on a platform that says Cabinet Officers most important job is working with the legislature.

Can't have it both ways wingnuts.

gene,

Thats a law enforcement issue, not a tax credit to consumers/refining the citizens budget issue.

The CFO is the financial guy, so anything to do with money will involve him with the legislature.

[Gene Smith]

Are you saying the AG is not supposed to be involved with the legislature? I thought the AG was one of the Cabinet Officers with responsibilty for regulating insurance in Florida? Is that not true?

Empty suit.

He does regulate insurance companies, but he does not tell the legislature what he wants them to put into a bill for him to enforce. His working with legislature as AG is usually solely for crime bills and such.

Remember separation of powers.

A young rising star in the Republican Party has boasted to witnesses of his sexual relationship with Charlie Crist, the frontrunner in the Florida governor's race who has repeatedly denied that he is gay.

The GOP staffer, 21-year-old Jason Wetherington, told friends at separate social functions in August that he had sex with Crist, according to two credible and independent sources who heard Wetherington make the claim first-hand.

Wetherington, who recently worked as a field director for U.S. Senate candidate Katherine Harris and currently works for state representative Ellyn Bodganoff's reelection campaign, also named a man whom he said is Crist's long-term partner, a convicted thief named Bruce Carlton Jordan who also recently worked for Harris in her long-shot Senate bid.

Jordan made headlines recently when the Miami Herald learned that the felon was working as Harris's travel aide. The newspaper noted that Jordan, 42, was reported to be close friends with Charlie Crist, whom he convinced to attend an annual Florida Funeral Directors Association meeting in 2003.

Jordan was charged in 2003 with stealing thousands of dollars from two organizations for whom he worked, including the Tallahassee-based Florida Funeral Directors Association, where he served as executive director. He completed a 60-day jail sentence in February and will be on probation until the year 2011, according to state records.

When the Herald questioned Crist about Jordan this past August, the frontrunner in the governor's race told the newspaper that he doesn't remember the man. "I don't know who Bruce Jordan is," he said at the time. "It doesn't mean I haven't met him. I don't know who you are speaking about."

I asked Crist during a phone interview on Monday morning if he had ever had sex with Jordan.

"No," he said. "I don't recall the name."

That Crist doesn't remember Jordan seemed incredible to me. Not only did the attorney general make a special appearance at the funeral directors' conference, but former presidents of the association say Jordan was known to be pals with Crist. Attempts to reach Jordan weren't successful, but his father told me that Crist and his son are friends.

"He talks about [Crist], but I don't think he's seen Charlie in a while," said Albert Jordan, who lives in Inverness, where he and his wife raised their son.

When asked if his son and Crist had a sexual relationship, the father simply said, "Not as far as I know."

I recounted some of those facts with Crist.

"I'm not saying I haven't met him, I probably have," he said. "I just can't picture him, that's all."

I also asked him about Wetherington's claim to sources that he'd had sex with Crist. "That's ridiculous," he said. "Completely false."

Then I asked him if he'd ever in his life had sex with a man.

"Never," he said.

While there is no proof that what Wetherington has said is true, it's clear that he said it. I first learned about his claims after receiving an anonymous e-mail on October 6. The e-mail was linked to a 2003 story of mine reporting that now-disgraced congressman Mark Foley was gay.

"Why don't you do the same story for another hugely visible FL politician running for office? Call if you want a starting point."

Immediately I knew the e-mailer was referring to Crist. For years, it has been rumored that Crist, the favorite to move into the governor's mansion after the November 7 election, is gay.

I was interested in pursuing the lead mainly because I've come to believe that any closeted politician in the Republican Party — which openly woos homophobes into its ranks while opposing gay rights — is fair game for the media.

Crist, for his part, has been moderate on those issues and supports civil unions. "I'm a live and let live kind of guy," he told me.

But the Palm Beach Post reported on Friday that Crist can be heard in recently recorded phone calls targeting voters saying, "I support a constitutional amendment to protect traditional marriages, and I oppose adoption by gay couples."

I asked him about that, and he said he's always held those positions. I asked him if he thought it was fair for reporters to ask him about his own sexuality. "Of course it's fair," he said. "It's just happens to be wrong."

Many people aren't convinced that Crist is telling the truth. I am one of them, especially after reporting this column. The source behind the e-mail, who asked that I not reveal his name for fear of retribution, is a gay man, a registered Independent voter and former Republican who isn't involved in Democratic Party politics. He was motivated to tell his story, he says, by his outrage at the Foley scandal.

He recounted a dinner party of four people at a friend's posh waterfront home in Las Olas Isles. He didn't remember the exact date but it took place in early August. He was there with his friend, his friend's partner, and Wetherington.

His friend had struck up a sexual relationship with Wetherington after meeting him in an AOL chat room. Wetherington spoke at the party about working for Katherine Harris's campaign. To me, this was significant since Harris is a stalwart of the Religious Right and openly denounces homosexuality. Wetherington even took a call from Harris after they sat down for cocktails before dinner. "He was like Harris's gay valet," the source said.

As they sipped their drinks, Jason started talking about his relationship with Crist, which he said had been sexual in nature.

"Charlie Crist? Are you kidding?" the source remembers asking.

They asked Jason about the size of Crist's anatomy. Jason "wouldn't go there," said the source. "He said that he remains friendly with Crist and that he was expecting an appointment when Crist becomes governor."

The source said that after the dinner he struggled for a few weeks with what he'd heard. When the Foley scandal hit the news, he called ABC News, which had broken the congressional page story. He said the network had no interest in the story.

Then he contacted me. I learned that Wetherington, a dark-haired and good-looking former page in the state senate, had been Harris's southeast field director and had left the campaign after the primary to work for Bogdanoff.

Wetherington had also appeared in numerous Sun-Sentinel articles. From them, I learned he was an alum of Fort Lauderdale High School, where he was the student body's vice president and the student advisor to the Broward County School Board.

On August 11, 2002, the newspaper published a feature story about Wetherington under the headline: "Leader by example: The school board's student advisor is a take-charge guy with lofty ideals and goals."

In it, Wetherington was very open about his ambition, telling the newspaper, "I'll make it to Washington, whether in the Senate or the White House." His mother said she was certain she would someday be a "First Mom."

The article also mentioned his role as a leader at First Baptist Church in Fort Lauderdale. The huge 12,000-member church is one of the more anti-gay institutions in the county and has been aligned with the ultra-conservative Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church and its rabidly right-wing minister, D. James Kennedy.

Wetherington appeared to be living a seriously twisted double life. On the one hand, he was a young Christian Republican leader and on the other a cruiser of men in AOL chat rooms.

Two weeks ago, I dropped by Wetherington's apartment complex off Sunrise Boulevard near the Intracoastal. As it happened, he was in his car in the parking lot, about to drive away.

I asked him to roll down his window, introduced myself, and told him what I was doing there. Wetherington confirmed he was gay. I told him what I had learned about the dinner party, which he admitted attending. But he denied that he had ever had sex with Crist.

"The only way I would have said that was if I was really drunk," he told me, adding that he didn't "remember anything" about the party.

I told him that the source told me that they had asked him about Crist's anatomy. Wetherington became more adamant about this detail than anything else during the impromptu interview. He asserted several times that he had never spoken about Crist's anatomy.

I assured him that the source had told me the same thing.

He said that he had met Crist on at least three different occasions, including at his church and at Crist's Republican primary debate with Tom Gallagher in West Palm Beach, but the extent of his contact with the Attorney General was "shaking his hand."

Did he already have a job locked up with the administration if Crist wins the election?

"I sent him a resume," he said. "I want to work for him, but I never said that I had a job with the administration."

I told Wetherington that it must be tough navigating his two conflicting worlds.

"It has been a personal struggle," he told me. "But I have my mother and I have the church "

Wetherington went on to say that he had come out to the church and that his activity there had decreased significantly because of it. He said he needed to go but wanted me to call him so we could meet for a standard interview. He never returned my phone calls.

A week later, I received another e-mail from another source who created the Yahoo name of "EveryOne KnowsAboutCC" to contact me. I spoke with the new source and he told an extremely similar story about Wetherington, only he'd heard it at a different party that took place in Broward County this past August.

This source, unlike the first, has known Wetherington for years. Again, the source supplied his identity — which is known in some local political circles — but asked that I not reveal it publicly.

The source was credible and possessed knowledge that only a confidante of Wetherington's could possibly have. He said he contacted me because he had learned that I had interviewed Wetherington.

"I am very conflicted about talking yet at the same time with the whole Foley thing, you can imagine how I must feel," he said. " Jason is a very nice kid, but as a gay person, we struggle very hard and, to have somebody [Crist] who sucks up to a party that badmouths us and works against us, is very two-faced."

He said Wetherington told him and several other people at a party that he had sex with the politician in a hotel room in the Tampa-Sarasota area while he was working on the Harris campaign. He said Wetherington recounted that he spoke with Crist about a campaign matter and "one thing led to another and they had sex."

"No birthmarks, moles, or such," said the source. "He also said that it happened on more than one occasion."

The new source also told me, like the first, that the young aide boasted that he was in line for an appointment to Crist's administration after he won the governor's race.

And he said that Wetherington named Crist's long-term partner: Bruce Carlton Jordan. The source said he had no idea who Jordan was, but had jotted the name down so he would remember it.

Both the sources are obviously telling the truth about Wetherington. That means that Wetherington, one of the most promising young Republican staffers in Florida, either had a sexual relationship with Crist or was lying about it.

There's no proof, just the ring of truth. Crist, meanwhile, is clearly in denial mode as indicated by his hollow claim that he doesn't remember Jordan. He tries to write the issue off as pre-election politics.

"It's the silly season," he said.

Maybe, but I don't think this issue is going away anytime soon.

9:45

We have heard the unsubstantiated rumors over and over, shut up and go away.

[1catalyst]

OK, 9:45 AM

You quoted the entire Bob Norman article from The New Times Broward Palm Beach october 26, 2006 Edition without giving him credit. www.newtimesbpb

Maybe Bob Norman, the best investigative reporter in South Florida (not totally encumbered by the PC and financial restraints of the mainstream media)has finally gotten some thread of truth that will unravel the Charlatan Charlie deceptions. I use plural "deceptions" since it is not only his sexual activity that is in question but each and every one of his supposed conservative/traditional values.

As Beth Reinhard of the Miami Herald and others noted in the debate between Crist & Davis, Crist's pro-life claim is another big deception. "I'm pro-life, but I would not change the laws on abortion." INDEED - Pro-life?

Many fellow Repbulicans have been saying this all along...

Can we vote for a charlatan if he appears to be the lesser of two evils? It is a very perplexing question?

Bob Norman is raw and hip and honest! Thank you Bob for your courage. We need to know "The rest of the story" please.

[1catalyst]

9:55

While I was composing my reply to the 9:45 post of Bob Norman's New Times Article, you chime in with ..."shut up and go away."

Do you Fantasy Fest Cristies not realize how perfectly you come across as the stereotype by such attitudes and remarks?

I guess not...

[terminator]

Has Charlie figured out what the CAT fund is?

Charlie to his secretary, "can you get Tom Gallagher on line one, I need to know what in the hell a CAT fund is and fast"

Gene, the Lunsford act and others dealt directly with the AG's law enforcement responsibilities.

The AG has as much business lobbying the legislature on an insurance bill as Bronson has lobbying about the FCAT.

9:45, we've all read that after the last 10 times it's been posted here -- do us a favor next time and just post the link. Either that or I'm billing you for my doctor's visit after having repetitive stress disorder due to scrolling past your post over and over.

Terminator, shouldn't you be protecting our children's education instead of attacking Florida's next Governor all day on blogs? DOn't you think your employers would hate to know what you do all day?

Charlie needs to articulate a clear plan for insurance. Simply put, eliminate Citizens, establish a state reinsurance fund to park and aggregate tax free windstorm premiums, back up the fund with letters of credit, offer reinsurance to the carriers on an auction basis, and let the prices float. Competition is the only solution to the current crisis. Socialized insurance (Citizens)and continuing pandering inspite of supply and demand economics is dishonest and destructive. The insurance market is all about fear and greed. After this year's mild hurricane season, fear will be replaced by greed and the scramble for market share will return.

Hmm Me thinks that Charlie hired a tutor to "fill him in" on what the insurance crisis is that all the folks in Florida are talking about,

You have to admit it Cristies - he has no first-hand knowledge of shopping for insurance, deciding on limits and what coverage exactly to get, the need for coverage before most mortgage companies will do business with you before your buy your home, reviewing it each year to verify that your insurance hasn't changed, we know its increased, but by how much and of course, he has no first-hand knowledge of paying the home insurance - or the shock when you call your mortgage company and complain about the "late fees" because you're not paying enough?!

A neighbor of mine was shocked - he had racked up more than $250 late fees - seems he was going by the coupon the mortgage company sent him last year still and whoa Nellie - his insurance had skyrocketed hence his mortgage/insurance bill had gone up and he wasn't aware of the difference. Seems he didn't review that insurance note quite well enough.

How many others here have been "shocked" or hit with a late fee? Not Charlie. Never Charlie. Charlie is ignorant of the hard facts of real life in Florida.

[terminator]

10:30
Don't think the union would mind one bit!

10:42 Charlie is not the person to talk to me about insurance. He knows nothing about insurance.

Renters insurance doesn't count.

It's our insurance premiums, stupid!

11:06

This is slightly off subject, but I will reference Michigan, just for comparison. I moved from there 2 years ago, and down here I have heard that the avg insurance premium down here in 2000 was about $500 a year, and now it is about $1100 a year.

Well in Michigan, the average premium is about $750 a year, and we have virtually NO natural disasters. Coming to Fl, i was expecting a higher premium b/c of hurricanes, and I pay $990 a year currently. I was very suprised to hear how low the premiums used to be in FL, and feel they were too low before, considering the risks.

Additionally, my wife and I paid $2600 a year in car insurance in MI, and now pay $2000 a year in FL, for better coverage. I am saving more in car insurance than I am paying extra in home insurance. I may be the exception, but I am better off here.

Property taxes, I pay the same here for a 2000 sf house than I paid in MI for a 1400 sf house, but most people know that MI is taxamichigan, and they rip us to shreds up there. So im not even upset at all about taxes down here either.

Charlie has reversed his reversal on vetoing the insurance bill. Charlie is pro-life but not against abortion. Charlie takes a stand on Schiavo by not taking a stand. Charlie seems to have everything both ways.

Terminator, the union might not mind, but the teachers who pay you via their dues might not like it one bit. I'm sure teachers don't think their hard-earned money is going to pay someone to sit around all day making gay jokes about the next Governor. Of course, it's not so much teachers' money anymore is it? It's mostly janitors and bus drivers who pay you now, which is why you guys don't do better negotiating higher salaries for teachers ...

Why won't the Times get to the bottom of the gay Crist allegations? People have a right to know this important information about Crist. Could the Times please interview these people and let us know the truth about Charlie?

11:29

This was investigated 3 months ago, and found nothing substantiated, and did not run the story. Read the article, even the miami herald investigated it, and nothing. Got it, good, now go away.

where there's smoke, there's fire. charlie's buddy mark foley should have taught you that.

11:34

Exactly what makes them buddies? That they are both republican politicians from the same state, that they have attended a few republican parties together. WOW, then you could make the case for Foley being buddies with about 500 republican politicians.

and 500 Democrats too

charlie crist is a homosexual, and so many people already know about it, except for the terminally naive evangelical loonie fringe. i don't care that charlie's gay, but i don't think he should try to hide it any longer.

11:45, if you don't care why are you talking about it? I'll tell you why, because you think keeping this BS rumor out there will erode Charlie's support. Your homophobic slander won't work.

Charlie Crist gets to have everything both ways. He is pro-life, but abortion is okay. He probably would have vetoed the insurance bill but later he decided he would not. He is for stem cell research as long as they do not destroy embryos. He is against gay marriage but not against gay families formed through adoption. He is not Gay but...

[Imadashell]

The issue in the campaign is not that Charlie is gay..thats a given.Which candidate will do more to lower ins rates!!Insurance is destroying our economy!If Davis is more effective in conveying that he will win ..same with Charles.The Democratic Goverenors assn just made a contribution to davis BASE ON INTERAL POLLS.

a republican complaining about homophobic slander? what a laugh!!!
where do you stand on the drive to ban gay marriage, o republican queen of the blog?

I took a homophobics class at the local YMCA and lost ten pounds in a week! The showers were kind of weird though, no soap trays and lots of free balloons.

I'm in favor of our laws the way they are, which protect marriage and have withstood legal challenges. I think the gay marriage amendment is a clear political effort and I don't support it.
signed,
11:53

and 1:15, that was funny!!

1:31, Ditto on both points.

[terminator]

11:27
I still manage to get plenty of work done. Most nights I don't even leave the office until 7.

Gotta have a little levity to keep one's sanity.

The reason we can't get better raises is because the state doesn't give us enough money cuz they'd rather spend it on corporate welfare for millionaires (elimination of the intangibles tax) and all these ridiculous sales tax exemptions the Florida code is riddled with.

At least Senator McKay had the foresight to see for every dollar we were collecting we were giving three away in handouts. Still no one wants to do anything about it because the business lobby can buy every politician from here to DC.

Then you've got these bloated, bureaucratic, incompetent and corrupt big school districts that waste taxpayer money hand over fist.

The two factors coupled together have made it next to impossible to get our heads above the water line but I think that was Jeb and the GOP's whole agenda anyway.

Hey, we did beat him on class size and vouchers. That's not too bad.

Terminator, if you can't get teachers their share of the BILLIONS in additional money being out into education, that isn't Jeb's fault, and I definitely agree about the districts being bloated - don't you think that would be a great place to start working with Republicans? Imagine how easy it would be to pass something that cut the fat in districts and shifted it to salaries ...

[terminator]

3:49
Like I've said we've managed to get barely enough to keep our noses above the water line.

I have been working on this problem for a number of years.

You'd be surprised how defensive these school districts can get when you threaten their monopoly.

Ever heard a pig squeal?

1:31 are you straight, bi or gay?

If you are straight, are you married, or have you been married? If you are married, how does a gay marriage/civil union threaten your marriage.

If you were marriage, did a homosexual break up the relationship?

[merry_007]

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