Dems "Fumbling Florida"
So says The Nation in a piece on the Florida primary mess:
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[ "The realities of politics, and what goes on behind closed doors, just burns me up," Wilson said. "But what are you gonna do? Anyway," she said, reaffixing the beam on her face, "Hillary will fix it! I give her carte blanche!" ]
Scary stuff...
Posted by: | November 29, 2007 at 05:48 PM
Awwww ... I almost feel sorry for the "blog Florida blue" Kossack crowd ... NOT!
Posted by: | November 29, 2007 at 07:18 PM
You guys probably won't believe this, but I actually talked to this guy at the convention.
Of course, I didn't give him what he wanted to write about, so we get this instead. This guy is about two months behind on this story, not just one. Even the Florida political press now gets that no Dem is going to vote for a Republican just because of this primary snafu. And those independents who say they are "less likely" to vote Dem - what do they really care? They don't get to vote in the primary anyway!
Most Dems in this state have figured out that their votes are going to count in the way that it really matters. We are going to get a real chance to influence who the nominee is going to be. Isn't that why we moved the primary up in the first place?
Posted by: Gene Smith | November 29, 2007 at 08:41 PM
Seems the Republicans are missing a great messaging opportunity--not only did the Democratic leaders in the 4 early states not give the candidates a waiver to come to the Florida convention, they all turned around the next week and gave the candidates a waiver to attend a private Muslim convention in Michigan. Maybe the Republicans are saving that one for later next year because that's just too good to pass up.
Posted by: | November 29, 2007 at 10:26 PM
What happened to the Erin Isaac story?? What are you hiding, SPT???
Posted by: | November 29, 2007 at 11:11 PM
What happened to the Erin Isaac story?? What are you hiding, SPT???
Posted by: | November 29, 2007 at 11:11 PM
"But this is not about states' rights; this is about a process we're trying to keep some control over." `Donna Brazile
Democrats...this is exactly why you consistently LOSE in Florida
Posted by: | November 30, 2007 at 06:09 AM
It's not about states rights, it is about individual voters counting. It isn't about "process," "rules," "party discipline" or anything else. It is about elections being about counting votes.
If politics can be divorced from votes then it is not democracy--it's party leader rule or some other form of oligopolistic government--in this case, a form of government practiced by a perfectly misnamed political association.
Posted by: Once a Dem now I'll be Damned to be a Dem | November 30, 2007 at 07:09 AM
Erin started to cry when she thought there was a possibility of another Garbage Pail kids blog and called Steve....
Posted by: | November 30, 2007 at 07:18 AM
Democrats = Party of Disenfranchisement. They even disenfranchise their own.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted by: | November 30, 2007 at 08:37 AM
I thought “Disenfranchisement” is what happens to a local McDonalds when they piss off the home office?
Posted by: | November 30, 2007 at 08:44 AM
Where exactly are the Republicans on the primary in Florida? Isn't there a threat to not seat delegates? Is it not news because we know Republicans are ok with disfranchising voters?
Posted by: | November 30, 2007 at 09:54 AM
Democrats are easier to make fun of.
Posted by: | November 30, 2007 at 09:55 AM
The RNC has threatened to unseat half on Florida's delegates, though they have not laid out formal plans to do so.
What they are doing, and why you're not hearing abiut it, is that they are sitting back and watching Florida and the DNC wage their circular firing squad, taking notes on how that PR campaign is going, planning accordingly, and laughing all the way to eleciotn day at you silly Dems.
Posted by: | November 30, 2007 at 10:02 AM
If you want to see a circular firing squad, I suggest you view a clip of Wednesday's Republican YouTube debate in St. Pete. That's some must-see TV of Republicans Eating Their Own.
As the Democrats unite behind their candidate--whomever s/he ends up being when the primaries are finished--the Republicans will continue to agonize over the right guy to be at the top of their ticket. Problem is, Republican voters don't have confidence in any of them, while we Democrats have faith that any of our nominees can do the job of being President well.
Posted by: Michelle from Tampa | November 30, 2007 at 10:31 AM
To set the record straight, the RNC has, in fact, imposed a 50% delegate reduction on the RPOF.
Posted by: Gene Smith | November 30, 2007 at 10:35 AM
Who cares anymore? Vote independent! Get rid of the clowns and the crooks.
Posted by: | November 30, 2007 at 10:36 AM
LOL Michelle - the constant barbs thrown between Clinton, Obama and Edwards indicate confidence in any one candidate?!
spare me your inanity...it's a Friday.
Posted by: | November 30, 2007 at 10:44 AM
Pleeeeze! The Dems cannot even take advantage of things in the State Legislature. They have an opportunity to knock out some key R's, especially in the Senate, but they sit with their thumbs up their you know what. Senior R's with the real experience,will not be leading the Senate, they will be ansewring and catering to the little boy Republican extremeists. This is a great Democrat opportunity to turn things around in the state Legislature. A real opportunity to change the direction of the D party. They need to do it now, or suffer under these extremeist. Don't wait for other Republicans to do something, they have no fortitude to do it.
Posted by: | November 30, 2007 at 10:45 AM
so Michelle, let's say Clinton wins Florida but Obama wins the nominaiton by a sum of delegates small enough that, had Florida been seated, would have put Clinton on top?
I'd say that's a MAJOR legitimacy issue in the naiton's 4th largest state.
The whole federal mentality your party has - as articulated above by Ms. Brazile - is why you consistently lose this state, and also lose contact with mainstream America. We have all learned - R's and D's - that Washington is NOT the answer to our problems.
Posted by: Omega83 | November 30, 2007 at 10:47 AM
That’s funny! Seeing Gene Smith and the word “straight” in the same post… HAHAHAHAHAHA….
Posted by: | November 30, 2007 at 10:58 AM
Clinton/Biden vs Huckabee/Thompson
Clinton/Biben in a close one!
… read it, write it, remember it
Posted by: | November 30, 2007 at 11:01 AM
So 10:58 - Did I get it wrong about the RNC???
Posted by: Gene Smith | November 30, 2007 at 11:05 AM
No.
Posted by: | November 30, 2007 at 11:37 AM
What little effect (if any) this snub has on FL DEMs will be nothing compared to the feeding frenzy that takes place when the all the phony campaign promises made by GOP candidates to conflicting special interest groups come due. Mark my words; in the long term GOP view, if you're not in the top 1% of the food chain, you're eventually going to get eaten; regardless of your stand on any of the issues that the NeoCons temporarily pretend to support. So wise up - when you're no longer useful, you will be consumed. Vote DEM while you still can.
Posted by: | November 30, 2007 at 12:15 PM
i love it - the constant, pathetic cry and whine of FL Dems - "We're still relevant, we still matter" sniff sniff
Posted by: | November 30, 2007 at 01:03 PM
Corrupt Republicans who love to push their morals on others, only to be found in some mens room looking for gay sex with strangers Yeah, they are so great! NOT
Posted by: stephen | December 02, 2007 at 10:35 AM