Hillary struggling in Fl's general election
Mason-Dixon has Giuliani beating Clinton in Florida 50% to 43%, and while 57 percent of voters said they would consider voting for the former New York mayor only 49 percent said they would consider voting for the New York senator. Thompson beats her 48-44, and Romney 46-45.
About one in five voters said they would be less likely to vote Democrat because the of DNC penalties and candidate boycott over Flordida's early primary.

About one in five voters said they would be less likely to vote Democrat because the of DNC penalties and candidate boycott over Flordida's early primary.
THAT'S A HUGE NUMBER!!!!!
Posted by: | November 19, 2007 at 02:03 PM
Assuming Florida has 10m voters, that's 2m total.
If 4m participated in the last election, then that's still 800,000.
Democrats are so stupid
Posted by: | November 19, 2007 at 02:06 PM
That boycotting is working nicely I see.
Posted by: UF Student | November 19, 2007 at 02:26 PM
Don't worry guy's the FL Democratic Party will be running State wide ad's showing the Hypocracy of the Republican Party mail outs about the boycott. They will point out, the fact that when the mailings were sent out... that they new they were facing sanctions too.
Hold onto you hats R's the dung is about to hit the fan!
Posted by: | November 19, 2007 at 02:35 PM
The poll shows that Hillary's negatives are way to high. She will lose Florida, and Ohio, and Missouri, and all the other battleground states.
As a Republican, I hope and pray she gets the Democrat nomination!
Posted by: | November 19, 2007 at 02:39 PM
Knew not new.... sorry typing to fast.
Posted by: | November 19, 2007 at 02:47 PM
Clinton kicking Giuliani's butt nationally in all polls!
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_giuliani_vs_clinton-227.html
Posted by: | November 19, 2007 at 02:53 PM
With Rudy and Judy's past as well as Bernie Kerik's mob ties... The Dems will have a field day trashing the Giuliani's. Every day a new sensational story will be leaked. That's not even counting the NY Firefighter and families of 9/11 victims. I can see it getting very ugly for Rudy.
Posted by: | November 19, 2007 at 03:02 PM
Hillary is HOT! Besides, who listens to a DJ when it comes to picking a president?
Posted by: | November 19, 2007 at 03:12 PM
Judy Riuliani (aka: the Mob’s beeatch)… is done, finished, over & out… or how do you say… sleeping wit da fishes!
Posted by: | November 19, 2007 at 03:14 PM
Mason Disxon, a reputable organization has Rudy beating Hillary handily - even in a week when she had a good debate and has been in the news almost every minute.
HAHAHAHAHAHAAH
She will be toast on election day.
Posted by: | November 19, 2007 at 03:57 PM
Hillary will kick butt! She is polling at 42% to 52% in the dem primary. Leading Giuliani by an average of 6% points nationally. The R's will not win the WH especially with Giuliani.
The Families of 9/11 and the NY Fire Fighters are already running ads against him. Also he had his girlfriend (now wife) living in the Goverors Mansion with him and his then wife Donna Hanover. This is also the man that dressed in drag not once but many times.... and there are plenty of photos to show on TV ads. He lived with his 2 best friends (a Gay couple.) Most of that does not offend me except for the moving his girlfriend into his home he was sharing with his wife and they were still married... That was very poor judgement!
Maybe that is why even the Fox News poll has her ahead by 6%.
Posted by: | November 19, 2007 at 04:28 PM
2:53pm,
lol who cares what national poll says. It's ELECTORAL VOTES that count.
Lose FL and you will not win the White House.
Posted by: | November 19, 2007 at 04:35 PM
The incestuous, cross-dressing, exploiter of American death for political gain… is the one who will be toast on Election Day.
I hear Rocco will be dropping dime on the freak soon…
Posted by: | November 19, 2007 at 04:35 PM
No way in hell I will vote for socialist Hillary.
I would vote pretty much anyone other than her.
Posted by: John | November 19, 2007 at 04:37 PM
NO WAY I'M WAITING 3-6 MONTHS FOR SURGERY UNDER HILLARY'S PLAN (IF I EVER NEED IT)
Posted by: | November 19, 2007 at 04:39 PM
Didn’t Rudy sleep with his mother too!… ewwwwwwww, what a freak show this nipplenose is.
Posted by: | November 19, 2007 at 04:40 PM
4:39, Feel free to die, we could use the no-vote!
Posted by: | November 19, 2007 at 04:41 PM
If Judy Riulini is “The incestuous, cross-dressing, exploiter of American death for political gain…” does that make his wife a lesbian who’s rubbing carpet with her aunt… or just a freak?
Posted by: | November 19, 2007 at 04:43 PM
I don't think he slept with his mother... but he did marry his 1st cousin. And they say Hillary has negatives. This guy is a negative!
Posted by: | November 19, 2007 at 04:54 PM
Judy Riuliani is so negative, his nickname is hyphen!
Posted by: | November 19, 2007 at 04:56 PM
The 20% who say they will be less likely to vote Dem because of the Primary flap were never going to vote Dem in the first place. Actually a little hard for them to be "less" likely. Nice try Gopers, but among the Dems this is a little intramural flap of no real consequence.
Having said that, these head to head numbers point up the problem for Hillary Clinton. Guiliani is a tragically weak candidate and he's leading her in the largest swing state in the country. Generic polls show the voters want a Dem president this time around, but they don't much care for Hillary.
It's not like we don't have other good options for a nominee.
Posted by: Gene Smith | November 19, 2007 at 05:24 PM
I would not vote for Hillary if she was the last person on this EARTH!!!
She will lead us down a path of destruction make no mistake about that.
She is a phoney and I hope most smart americans dems and reps will see through her.
Posted by: | November 19, 2007 at 05:39 PM
It's always comforting to read Gene Smith's post and know that the Democratic based consists of the arrogantly, confidently clueless.
Posted by: Zhombre | November 19, 2007 at 07:52 PM
Hillary is going to be the next POTUS... Deal with that!
Posted by: | November 19, 2007 at 08:01 PM
POTUS? You mean Priestess Of The Useless Socialists?
Posted by: | November 19, 2007 at 08:59 PM
Do we really want this clown as the GOP nominee? The Clinton campaign would have a field day with him. Rudy Giuliani is the Godfather of Bernard Kericks' children. Rudy makes Bill Clinton seem like a saint.
Personal life
Giuliani has been married three times. On October 26, 1968, soon after he graduated from law school, he married his second cousin, educator Regina Peruggi, whom Giuliani had known since childhood. In the mid-70s the marriage was in trouble and in 1975 they agreed to a trial separation.[140] Peruggi did not accompany him to Washington when he accepted the job in the Attorney General's Office.[141] Giuliani met local television personality Donna Hanover sometime in 1982, and they began dating when she was working in Miami.[142] Giuliani filed for legal separation from Peruggi on August 12, 1982.[140] Giuliani and Hanover started living together later that year in Washington, D.C.[142] The Giuliani-Peruggi marriage was ended in two ways: a civil divorce was issued by the end of 1982,[143] while a Roman Catholic Church annulment of the Giuliani-Peruggi marriage was granted at the end of 1983,[140] according to Giuliani, because he discovered after 14 years of marriage that he and his wife were second cousins,[144] rather than third cousins,[141] and they did not have the Church dispensation thus needed.[145][146] Giuliani and Peruggi did not have any children.
Giuliani and Hanover then married in a Catholic ceremony at St. Monica's Church in New York on April 15, 1984.[147][140] They had two children, son Andrew (born January 30, 1986) and daughter Caroline (born 1989). Andrew first became a familiar sight by misbehaving at Giuliani's first mayoral inauguration, then with his father at New York Yankees games, of which Rudy Giuliani is an enthusiastic fan; Andrew also was an accomplished junior golfer.
Beginning in 1996, Giuliani and Hanover's public relationship became distant, with Hanover appearing at few public events.[148] In 1997, a Vanity Fair article reported that Giuliani had a romantic relationship with Cristyne Lategano, the mayor's communications director.[149] The mayor and Lategano denied the allegations. On Father's Day, 1995 Giuliani had told reporters that he was returning to Gracie Mansion to play ball with Andrew. However, he instead went to City Hall, to a basement suite with his press secretary. Three hours later, Hanover, angered, appeared at City Hall; yet a mayoral aide prevented her from entering the suite.[150]
In May 2000, the New York Daily News broke news of Giuliani's extramarital relationship with Judith Nathan, a sales manager for a pharmaceutical company. Giuliani then called a press conference to announce that he intended to separate from Hanover.[151][152][153] Hanover, however, had not been told about his plans before his press conference,[154] an omission for which Giuliani was widely criticized.[155] Previously, Giuliani had hinted at the relationship by referring to Nathan as his "very good friend." Giuliani now went on to praise Nathan as a "very, very fine woman", and said about his marriage with Hanover, that "over the course of some period of time in many ways, we've grown to live independent and separate lives." Hours later Hanover said, "I had hoped that we could keep this marriage together. For several years, it was difficult to participate in Rudy's public life because of his relationship with one staff member," a reference to Lategano. Giuliani, Hanover and Nathan appeared on the cover of People magazine in the aftermath.[156]
Giuliani then moved out of Gracie Mansion and into an apartment belonging to two gay friends.[157] Giuliani filed for divorce from Hanover in October 2000,[158] and an unpleasant public battle broke out between their representatives.[159] Nathan was barred by court order from entering Gracie Mansion (where Hanover still lived) or meeting his children before the divorce was final.[160] In May 2001, in an effort to mitigate the bad publicity from the proceedings, Giuliani's attorney revealed (with the mayor's approval) that Giuliani was impotent due to his prostate cancer treatments and had not had sex with Nathan for the preceding year. "You don't get through treatment for cancer and radiation all by yourself," Giuliani said. "You need people to help you and care for you and support you. And I'm very fortunate I had a lot of people who did that, but nobody did more to help me than Judith Nathan."[161] Giuliani argued in a court case that he aimed to introduce Nathan to his children on Father's Day, 2001, and that Donna had prevented this visit.[162] Giuliani and Hanover finally settled their acrimonious divorce case in July 2002, after his mayoralty had ended, with Giuliani paying Hanover a $6.8 million settlement and granting her custody of their children.[163]
Giuliani subsequently married Judith Nathan on May 24, 2003, and thus gained a stepdaughter, Whitney. It was also Nathan's third marriage after two prior divorces.[156]
By March 2007, The New York Times and the New York Daily News reported that Rudy Giuliani had become estranged from both his son Andrew (now a golf team member at Duke University) and his daughter Caroline (graduated from Trinity School in 2007, attending Harvard University), missing major events in their lives, such as graduations, and sometimes going long stretches without talking to them, and that neither of them was taking part in his presidential campaign.[164][165] Caroline uses her mother's surname, Hanover, rather than Giuliani's, and according to reports, she did not inform Giuliani when she was accepted to Harvard.[156] Caroline apparently linked her personal Facebook page to the campaign of Democratic presidential candidate, Senator Barack Obama.[166][167] However, after a slate.com contributor reported this link, Caroline removed it from her "Facebook" page.[168]
Giuliani is the godfather to former New York City police commissioner Bernard Kerik's two youngest children.[169]
Posted by: | November 19, 2007 at 09:00 PM
"Rudy makes Bill Clinton seem like a saint."
Kathleen Willey.
Juanita Broadrick.
Cigars.
Posted by: | November 19, 2007 at 09:05 PM
I'd have voted for Hillary, but when the DNC canceled my primary vote, she endorsed their action.
What value in American democracy should be more important than counting votes?
Hillary could have said "following rules" is more important than counting votes, like the DNC did.
Hillary could have said "party discipline" is more important than counting votes, like the Florida DNC members who voted to void their own and their neighbors' votes said.
But instead, Hillary said, "Iowa is about ideas." I guess all us Floridians just fell of the turnip truck into our swamp and never had an idea in our lives.
And then there Barak. He comes here to collect checks at private parties for fat cats and shuns Florida voters who aren't rich enough to write checks big enough to them invited to the private parties, explaining that, "I'm just following the rules."
What leadership! Barak certainly stands out as the "new kind of leader" he claims to be.
Richardson and those gray-haired senators, rushed to shun Florida before Hillary, Barak and Edwards could.
Edwards paused to comb his hair and so was beat to the punch by the rush of "second tier" candidates, before he could agree that Floridians don't deserve to have our votes counted.
Then there are the party activists of Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina--fellow party members, Republican or Democratic--who literally celebrated our disenfranchisement: happy as pigs in the front row at a trough that they'll stay more important than us.
Gee, it is good to belong to the same club as them!
How silly were we to want to matter?
Let's put our chins up and show some team loyalty! Let's cheer for the parties and our fellow party members in other states! Let's put a smile on and vote for the very people who condone our disenfranchisement. Let's vote even though the votes won't really count. Let's pretend they will count. That's what are leaders are doing. Let's just forget the unpleasant reality that votes have been voided and hold hands with those who voided them.
And when we are voting, let's remember the incumbent politicians. With very few exceptions, they've ducked and avoided getting involved in the "spat" that cost us our votes.
They've got mixed loyalties: loyalty to the team--the parties, and loyalty to their voters--the voters who had their votes canceled or halved by the parties. Did they go and pass laws to require that our votes be counted? No, of course not--other things are more important.
Let's reward our incumbents as they deserve--the next time our vote are protected by law and have to be counted.
We know one thing about all our party leaders and our elected representatives: they are all on record about whether they think other things are more important than having our votes count.
What could be more instructive?
Anybody who casts a vote for a candidate who condoned the voiding of his own vote is an idiot.
Write in your mother on primary day and toss out the incumbents who go along with the party leaders next November when your vote can't be voided.
Your mother cares about you. These other creeps don't give a d#$% about you.
Posted by: Pretty dumb but.... | November 20, 2007 at 08:10 AM
Folks... Let's remember that the RNC is also sanctioning the delegates in FL as well as other early primary states!
Hillary said that she WILL seat all the delegates from all the states when she is the presumptive nominee... HELLO.
However, you might want to check with the Republicans candidates. I know for a fact that Thompson and Giuliani both have not made the same pledge to seat all delegates.
Posted by: | November 20, 2007 at 09:23 AM
I plan to vote for Hillary for her entertainment value. Hillary is this generation's LUCY, but with a sour disposition. Picture Lucy in the White House, and that's Hillary.
The show is gonna be great!
Posted by: Jim Johnson | November 20, 2007 at 10:51 AM
8:10 you must think we're pretty dumb if you think we're listening to the blogs of a GOP staffer pretending to be a DEM. (not even a) nice try!
Posted by: | November 20, 2007 at 12:33 PM
GOPers - Lest you think Americans have forgotten, two words: "George Bush" The DEMs will win the White House even if Hilary is the best candidate they can field on election day.
Posted by: | November 20, 2007 at 12:37 PM