Three speak as one on property taxes

Florida's city, county, and school board associations in a joint statement today urged voters to become well-informed about the property tax amendment before going to the polls Jan. 29. After meeting in Tampa, the groups stopped short of asking for a "no" vote on the amendment because that's not the position of the Florida Association of Counties. The county group, Florida League of Cities and Florida School Board Association did, however, agree that that they don't like policy directives -- such as more physical education in the schools -- coming from Tallahassee with no funding attached to them. They'd like to a see a constitutional amendment on the ballot in November that would require more review of "unfunded mandates."

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I, for one, am not for funding this welfare for the elite... the people who have made tons of money on their current homestead, who want to carry their SOH savings forward on the backs of our children. Additionally, this will hamper any real efforts to bring new businesses and industry to this state because any employees moving with a firm would also have to carry the burden as well...

Just say no to this welfare program for the new entitlement queens of 2007...

[Chris]

"No" is the only possible vote which will send a message to Tallahassee.

The citizens of Florida deserve a lot more in tax relief than an IPOD.

Charlie Crist has not accomplished one single thing that he said he would to get elected.

Chris beware the black helicopters...

Charlie knows all...sees all...

He is afterall..."The People"...

If we dont start now we will NEVER get another chance to lower our property taxes.
Take the first step. Vote YES ON 1

5:17 pm - Put down the bong, it will happen. No, is the only way to go.
If you really believe that, please call me because I have a great bridge to sell you.

[No Relief For Me]

5:17

If we don't vote down Amendment 1, we will NEVER have an opportunity for true reform.

Listen to Florida Tax Watch -- VOTE NO! The Florida Tax and Budget Committee has the power to place amendments on the November ballot and will have something better than this.

Vote yes and when portability is deemed unconstitutional, SOH may likely go with it. When you lose that and are taxed like recent buyers, then you'll all be demanding reform for ALL ..... not just SOME.

The main problem is the overspending by these counties, cities, and school boards.

All these entities were operating with nearly 50% less in budgets only a few years back. The increases have been outrageous and is rightfully coined "spending like drunken sailors".
There is a movement to cut back spending as our economy slows down. Why do you think there is such huge support John McCain.

Amendment 1 is not suppose to correct fairness. It is a good proposal to begin getting relief to the people by cutting around $240 annually + giving people portability of their Save Our Homes.

I urge everyone to get behind Gov Crist & the Speaker of the House and get this passed. Then we can work on more relief & reform.

YES on 1!!

[Casey]

Vote yes on all tax relief.

Make government cut spending.

Senate Majority Whip Mike Haridopolos
says to Vote YES on 1.

Heres why:

http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2008/jan/14/amendment-1-sen-mike-haridolopos-says-vote-yes/

Speaker Marco Rubio - “I’m voting for the property tax amendment on Jan. 29,”
“Even though the amendment fails to deliver the tax relief Floridians need and deserve, some tax relief is better than none.”

Sen. Mike Bennett, R-Bradenton. - “Zero. There are zero reasons not to vote for this amendment,“

Vote NO. Just like Rubio said. The amendment fails to deliver the tax relief Floridians need and deserve.

[Gene Smith]

5:01

Those "new entitlement queens of 2007" you are talking about are the majority of voters on the state of Florida.

So get over yourself already.

[No Relief For Me]

Read this and you will have many reasons to vote NO. Most important reasons for you SOH'ers -- not to risk losing this entitlement completely. Portability of SOH, will most likely do so.

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/jan/14/na-if-voters-kill-tax-amendment-true-reform-will-b/

[No Relief For Me]

And then read this.....

http://blogs.tampabay.com/buzz/files/011108Amendment1NotTrueReform.pdf

Florida Tax Watch is very pro low taxes, but warns you of how devastating this Amendment will prove to Florida. Do you honestly think you are smarter than they are?

[Ronnie]

If local governments would reduce taxes on their own they would not need the "Leagues" to tell us to vote no. Of course, local governments NEVER give anything back and just keep spending.

Regardless, the admendment is bad and I will vote no.

[Jane Goodman]

I'm voting yes because like Governor Crist says, this is just the beginning.

*$240 savings times 10 years =$2400

and portability for everyone especially seniors.

*close $7500 savings if we move.=$7500

near $77,400 over 10 years in saving in property taxes.

All I can say is: Yes to Amendment 1.

I thought there was already a statutory prohibition to unfunded mandates.

Unfunded mandates suck.

[No Relief For Me]

Governor Crist has already proved himself a LIAR....and you believe him when he says "this is just the beginning?"
LOL - you selfish YES voters will get just what you deserve when SOH is repealed.

Florida voters will never vote 60% FOR an amendment that would abolish Save Our Homes.

Ain't gonna happen.

Never.

Ever.

Senate Majority Whip Mike Haridopolos
says to Vote YES on 1.

Heres why:

http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2008/jan/14/amendment-1-sen-mike-haridolopos-says-vote-yes/

Posted by: | January 14, 2008 at 06:48 PM
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He was one of the key players with the proposed constitutional amendment.

Does one think he would vote "no"?

[No Relief For Me]

Jane....put on your glasses and READ the links I posted above. You will be putting SOH at risk with a YES vote. Portability is unconstitutional and if passed will not SAVE retirees, it will cost you severely.

lol,

2 Polls show Amendment 1 will likely pass.

[No Relief For Me]

I guess it's true that people believe only what they want to and see things through rose colored glasses.

I met Senator Hairadippity at a committee meeting. He listened to the heart wrenching stories of recent buyers, imminent domain victims, small business owners, second homeowners who now can't sell and get out, and those stuck in their homes.

I guess he was wearing his ear plugs and chose to help only the latter. Why? Because it was the easiest thing to do with the least impact possible on the budget and say they did something.

This is not reform people and WILL DO MORE HARM THAN GOOD! Take off those rose colored glasses and face reality.

No Relief For Me:

Quit with the scare tactics. SOH has already passed court muster twice.

Yes will give portabilty to seniors.

[No Relief For Me]

Voters will not repeal SOH -- Federal courts will!

Remember, ANY TAX RELIEF IS GOOD TAX RELIEF.

YES on 1.

[No Relief For Me]

Again, read the bulletin by Florida Tax Watch. A lawsuit has been filed in Leon County against SOH. It warns that if portability is passed, it will strengthen the case against SOH. If successful, it could mean that the State will be required to pay billions to those w/o SOH benefits who were shafted. That will cost the taxpayers severely and with no cap on millage rates, everyone's taxes go up.

I for one, support SOH, however believe portability is just plain discrimination and WRONG! Why should the guy the who makes the most money on the sale of his home, get the biggest tax break, while our children carry the burden?

You want to downsize granny and live comfortably, go to another state. When the Tribune published an article that says retirees are no longer coming to Florida, our citizens were brutal and wished them all good riddance.

[terminator]

No relief is correct.

A 1 is a sham cooked up by Charlie Crist, Ken Pruitt and the Senate to snooker taxpayers into getting rid of SOH.

Soon, SOH and portability are going to be challenged on a class action basis.

When both are ruled unconstitutional, it will start the unraveling of Florida's current property tax code (a good thing).

Then all the SOH folks will be crying in their beer "why did we vote yes on A1"?

Jane:
I'm sure you're a nice lady but me thinks you've been dipping in the leftover eggnog if you actually believe sun tan Charlie is going to make good on his campaign promises.

And Haridopolous???? You've got to be *hitting me? He's the tax expert you guys are quoting? Have any of you ever talked to or witnessed Senator Haridopolous in committee?

He doesn't know any more about tax policy than some people know about fornicating!

[No Relief For Me]

Terminator -- you have given me hope! Thank you for giving me some comic relief at least!

More reason why to vote yes on amendment 1:

http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080114/OPINION/80113018/1015

Even Democrat support Amend. 1.
Florida Sen. Dave Aronberg, D-Greenacres: “It’s decent, not great.”

Vote yes on all tax relief.

Make government cut spending.

Posted by: Casey | January 14, 2008 at 06:25 PM
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Any and all tax relief?

Then what about $1 for those with incomes under $100,000.

And $2 for those with incomes between $100,000 and $1,000,000.

And no taxes for those over $1,000,000 incomes?

[No Relief For Me]

To 8:24 PM

No doubt this article was written by one who will benefit substantially from this Amendment. He probably has one of those water front properties with a $500,000 SOH benefit and will take a $10,000 tax savings with him. At least with our present system, all new buyers are treated the same. Portability treats everyone differently and saves the richest the most!

Go ahead....vote what you must. I will take pleasure in saying "I TOLD YOU SO!"

Posted by: terminator | January 14, 2008 at 08:20 PM
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He does appear to not be an expert in tax policy based upon how he conducts himself in committee.

Enemies of the People:
Unions, City and County officials and any others who want to prevent our taxes from going down.

YES on !!

[terminator]

No relief:
glad I could be of assistance

it appears the Gov's press minions have been hitting the blogs tonight.

you can tell most of these people who purport to support A1 are imposters, otherwise their inexperience in dealing with the legislature and knowledge of individual legislators would be abysmal.

Senator Haridopolous a tax expert....
hahahahahahahaha
whoa.......that's rich guys.
hohohohohohohohohho.......I just fell off my keyboard and diet coke is coming out my nose!!

Posted by: No Relief For Me | January 14, 2008 at 08:33 PM
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Housing costs keep going up and in some places, a lot. In various places a small home is worth nearly $500,000.

Enemies of the People:
Unions, City and County officials and any others who want to prevent our taxes from going down.

Posted by: | January 14, 2008 at 08:37 PM
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A simple minded thought. Nothing more.

Any and all tax relief?

Then what about $1 for those with incomes under $100,000.

And $2 for those with incomes between $100,000 and $1,000,000.

And no taxes for those over $1,000,000 incomes?

[No Relief For Me]

Housing prices going up in Florida? hahahahahahahah.....lolololololol....

you've got to be kidding me?

I think terminator is right, you bloggers must be in the pocket of Crist and his idiots.

How about trying your lame reasons to vote yes on this group of bloggers?

http://www.topix.com/forum/source/south-florida-sun-sentinel/TF2U3KNJ2R1AOFR5L/p14

[No Relief For Me]

Who would you listen to?

Crist, Hairadopolos OR Florida Tax Watch?

Who do you think is the smartest guys on this issue?

Duh....wake up people!

[No Relief For Me]

Let's make it easier for you, start from page 1....

http://www.topix.com/forum/source/south-florida-sun-sentinel/TF2U3KNJ2R1AOFR5L

[Paul D. Harvill]

See my postings from yesterday, January 13th, regarding the largest contributors in favor of Amendment One:

http://forum.tallahassee.com/viewtopic.php?t=29462

Hey Gene... I personally would benefit from portability and the 67 cents a day the increase homestead exemption brings...

I still don't support it... not because it may be deemed unconstitutional and do away with SOH (which wouldn't be all that bad anyway)... not because the cities and counties oppose it... not because the teachers oppose it... not because the police and firefighters oppose it... not because it will jump start the housing market again (because it won't)

I oppose it because it increases the disparity among those who have been taught they are entitled to lower taxes because they have lived in Florida longer...

Gene, read this and provide your comback...

http://www.floridataxwatch.org/resources/pdf/011108Amendment1NotTrueReform.pdf

TBRC won't help either. Loaded down with Jebbites and business lobbyists who will keep the status quo for themselves.

[Let's indict the fatty]

Let's investigate who pays Dominic and they see the direct correlation from "sponsors" to suggested policy.

"Let's indict the fatty" is right.

Maybe Dommie boy called Jeb and asked him what he should do. That's how he's always made decisions while he "watches out for the citizens".

[jackie]

VOTE NO to amendment 1. This is just a bandaid to the proplem. We need tax reform. If this passes the real estate market and Florida will continue to tank and deserve to if voters vote for this insulting amendment

No Relief for Me, yes maybe I am smarter than those people at Florida TaxWatch, especially Dominic. Please think for yourself. Your links are worthless. The only thing clear from your posts is that nearly everyone is smarter than you. If you think SOH is unconstitutional explain why. Just saying it don't make it so. That goes for you too Termie.