Ausman: Fladems won't get 211 delegates

Jon Ausman was in the DC area this weekend where he a) won a big cycling event and b)met with a some key Democrats involved in the 5/31 DNC rules and bylaws committee meeting on his appeals. From his latest e-mail, here's what he expects to happen:

1--Florida is going to receive a penalty and we are not going to get 211 delegates on 31 May 2008.
2-Florida is going to get some delegates and alternates on 31 May 2008.
3--My presentation is going to be positive and forward looking because we are all on the same team.
4--My presentation is going to acknowledge that Florida violated the “timing rule”
5--My presentation is going to note how Floridahas already been punished.
6--My presentation will note the rules call for a reduction of delegates, not an elimination.
7--My presentation will acknowledge that a reduction is called for at this point.

More: "Florida Democrats are going to have to make a tough decision soon.  If the 188 delegates are reduced by 50% we can either have 188 persons cast a half vote or 94 persons cast a full vote.  The Florida Democratic Party State Executive Committee should consider this question and decide which it prefers.

"From a process perspective, it would be better to have 188 persons cast a half vote because we have already selected 148 of them and will be picking the remaining 40 on 17 May 2008 in Tampa at the Florida Democratic Party State Executive Committee meeting scheduled for that date.  In short, no one wants to tell 94 persons they are not longer a delegate (but maybe could be if the Convention Credentials Committee awards the rest of the delegation)."

Comments

[zenator]

Nothing is going to happen on May 31 unless Barack has secured the nomination by that date and then the delegate award will just be window dressing.

come on, who really cares anymore...

Count Florida’s votes as votes, split Florida’s Delegates 50/50, discount Michigan’s inequitable Primary completely, split Michigan’s Delegates 50/50,, fire Howeird Dunce, kick the Republican consultant (Thurmadrunk) to the curb while you’re at it, vote every incumbent out at your first available chance.

Problem Solved!

[Mark Alan Siegel]

As usual, Ausman is right on. His plan is the only way to go.

In a democracy, party officials don't get to decide which voters to count.

In a democracy, the "rules" are built on the foundation of counting each and every vote fully and equally.

The Democratic Party needs to change its name or put a consumer warning on all its campaign literature, "In spite of our name, we disenfranchise by the million, we halve votes, double votes, hold caucuses starting when polls close to water down vote results and we have 800 party appointed free agents who are meant to be independent of all voters."

One-person, one-vote, by law, for each and every American primary vote.

In a democracy, party candidates wouldn't sign a pledge to discount voters.

In a democracy, republicon hacks wouldn't lie us into war in order to profit from the death of thousands of young American men and women.

Now, I will never do business with Magnolia Park or Centex.

Axe the pop ups!

[Kevin]

Please support Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Organization so that we can seat the White House this Election???

I support President Clinton and Hillary Clinton because our Economy is struggling and our Deficit is @ an all time high right now and if I recall both of those issues were almost @ a stand still when They accompanied one another in the White House for 8 years as Commanders and Chiefs of this great nation. Right now is a pivotal moment and we literally have lost the Middle-Class in this Country, The Clinton's and they're organization have always made sure the middle class has flourished. I would like to voice my opinion about being a Voice that is Heard and not pushed aside by a bias media and perhaps even a bias democratic party, It is evidently clear that the media is "Forcing the Hands of The Democratic Party to throw the Clinton's out"
What they do not understand is that all they are accomplishing by doing so is guaranteeing a victory for the Republicans and John Mc Cain and here we go with another 4 years of Bush. Look the numbers speak for themselves. We agree that Mc Cain is going to be another Bush so simple mathematics will show if you go to the election of 2000 and 2004 you will see a trend of what states Bush Carried over Gore and Kerry. It is easy to see that Hillary has a lot of support in some of those states and Beat Obama in all of the "BIG" states with the biggest population and with the most electoral votes. Her support as she clearly keeps indicating amongst Blue Collar White Working Class voters is overwhelmingly in her favor, these are the votes you need in an election for President. She will continue to fight on for Florida and Michigan to be seated and that will help even the playing field. NO ONE I repeat NO ONE will have enough Electoral Votes to win this Election for the Democratic party So they do not have the right to give any credit to the Obama organization referencing a Win. The Super Delegates may not even Decide on this issue.
There is a simple Question rising right now and that is do you want a Democrat in office or a Republican??? The Democratic Party is going to have to come to terms with that Simple Question and if it is Democrat then they will have to Choose Hillary Clinton other wise we will loose the Nomination and I believe by staggering numbers considering what is out in the media right now about Barack Obama. Look @ the Hard facts and that is what Hillary Clinton is going to argue up until the end. The Party would have to be loosing they're Bearing's if they really think Obama stands a chance. Hillary go ahead and use that slogan by the way. I just want to end with a letter I sent the Clinton Organization Pleading with them as a Florida Voter and here it is,

The Math to get the Nomination" Read this Very Important

Listen I and my wife are Hillary supporters and so is my family and friends and we are all from Florida, Missouri, Indiana, New York, California, and Arizona. and we have held group meetings, made calls, and contributions and know you NEED this nomination. We need this Nomination and we NEED YOU Hillary Clinton to be our Candidate. I know the math is against us right now but we haven't given up and we know you will not either. I am no Rocket Scientist but I have figured out a way for the math to work for you to win in the election for the electoral votes needed. First off, and I know it's going to be a long shot but you have to win the endorsement of John Edwards and Get his 26 Delegate Count in your favor from him succeeding them to you in compliance with the democratic committee in agreeance. Maybe Bill can help you with this. also; You will need to carry West Va. , Kentucky, and Puerto Rico by an avg. of 70/30 split. not bad considering the demographics and latino favorable vote for you. You need a tie in South Dakota and Montana and Oregon. all of this will be contingent on you also getting Fl. where you should have about 61 delegates to Baracks 43 and you will need to also seat Michigan's votes but in order to do this you will need to give Barack the uncommitted votes of 237,762 you carried this state with 328,151 votes if you recall. that math is roughly 33/21 so you will still pick up delegates there. now furthermore you will need to and maybe most impressively win about 63% of the super delegates and Wham' you are the next democratic nominee. as far as I can see you have the tenacity and the backing of your name and all of us and many endorsements and of course poll victories to pull this off. tell them that 70 % of Obama supporters will vote for you even if Obama is out and only 48 % of our voters will vote for Barack or McCain come November. I, My wife, my family and friends happen to be those whom will either not vote or vote for Mc Cain if we are not heard and you are not seated. they are infringing on all of our rights to vote "it is our constitutional right to vote" Who do they think they are.? WE will Send a message to these people. It may cost them the Nomination all together and then Wham' another 4 years of BUSH with McCain. Please, I know you are trying everything you can but DO NOT allow them to throw you out. Stand your ground and keep up the fight. Your HillaryAholics stand behind you most when you are down and you fight back every time and that's precisely what your message should be from here on out and what you shall and will do from here on out. This I am confident of. The Republicans are hoping for Obama and routing for Obama so they can win this nomination.

Sincerely,

Your HillaryAholic Leader,

Kevin Poeling
Naples, Florida

Also, I will like to add to this a little bit on "The Math"

The States in just the last election won by Bush that Hillary should be a much better candidate in against McCain than Obama are West Va., Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, Texas, Kentucky, Arkansas, Puerto Rico, and even Arizona. These States were carried by Hillary Clinton in the race to the white house. The other States that were not won in 2004 by Bush but Obama might not be able to carry in this election against Mc Cain and Clinton more than likely will are California, Pennsylvania, Michigan, New York, and New Jersey. Look People I don't know about you but lets be real here. I mean just because you don't want to make this about RACE and hurt our African American (Which are Very Very important Votes) but they only make up 22.5 % of the total Democratic vote and lets see 87.6% of them are voting for Obama. that math equivalates to about 6,504,300.00 votes and what was the last poll? Oh yeah 70% of them said they would vote for Hillary. so lets see whats that #? o.k. its. 4,553,010 votes and so you subtract that from 6,504,300 and it is only 1,951,290 votes. Now lets do a little subject here. lets say that the poll that just came out held some weight in the upcomming election which it will.. now only 48% of Hillary supporters claimed they would vote for Obama. she has over 17,000,000 votes with Fl. and Mi. lets just say for argument sakes that number which is 8,160,000 votes. seems like an awfull lot of diffenece to throw the election on doesn't it? take 8,160,000 votes subtract the 1,951,290 votes and you have 6,208,710 votes difference. AND THAT MY FRIENDS WILL LOOSE US THE ELECTION RIGHT THERE. JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO GET A LITTLE HARSH WITH OUR AFRICAN AMERICAN VOTERS AND TELL THEM WHAT THE REAL NUMBERS ARE OUT OF FEAR.
I for one am upposed to allowing this nation to be ruled by an incompetent nominee and an un experienced one who is tied up in all sorts of scandals and terrorist mentioning? what are we still even talking about and what has come over the American People? WAKE UP!!! Don't forget about what just happened to us in the last 8 years. We cannot afford to allow that to occur again.

VOTE HILLARY CLINTON or LOSE THE WHITEHOUSE

Kevin,

You support Hillary on the economy - yet she wants to continue to lower interest rates, a recipe for inflation...

You say "I and my wife" indicating you are poorly educated and fit into a now typified Clinton supporter persona. Same goes for "loosing" the election.

Please do not forget Mrs. Clinton also signed the same pledge.