Crist to veto seagrass mitigation bill
Gov. Charlie Crist said Tuesday morning that he intends to veto a bill that would allow developers to destroy seagrass beds. Crist said he decided to veto the bill "to save the seagrass, of course."
The bill was originally intended to help seagrass beds, creating fines for boaters who damage them. But a last-minute change to the bill created a means for developers to gain permission to destroy seagrass beds through mitigation -- essentially writing a check to replace the damage on public property elsewhere in the state. Many environmentalists who originally pushed for the bill had wound up calling for its veto because of the change.

I am very happy to see we have a Governnor who cares about our state. Thank you Governor Crist.
Posted by: | June 10, 2008 at 09:50 AM
Thank you Governor Crist.
SPT - please repeat the name of the Republican scum legislator who tacked the mitigation clause onto a otherwise perfectly good pro-seagrass bill, so everyone who hates dirty pols can vote him out next cycle.
Thanks!
Posted by: Not all Republicans sell out to developers | June 10, 2008 at 09:59 AM
he is a weasel who just switched parties. He actually has only been elected as a democrat. So there
Posted by: | June 10, 2008 at 10:03 AM
I'd be happy to see a Governor who actually showed up for work more than once a week.
Posted by: | June 10, 2008 at 10:19 AM
Rep. Will Kendrick, R-Carrabelle
10:03 Since when does "R" mean Democrat? You mean he switched parties because his weaseling would fit right in with the Republican ideology?
He must be a loyal GOP now, since you wouldn't post his name - NOW LET'S VOTE THIS SCUM OUT OF OFFICE!
Posted by: | June 10, 2008 at 10:21 AM
Who is analyzing this bill for the Gov? Anyone who is familiar witht this legislation knows this an agency bill for DEP and Florida Forever oversight. The Gov and Cabinet already had the ability to create mitigation banks...and will still have that power when he vetoes this bill. He is just bowing to enviros who are crying wolf for no reason.
Posted by: | June 10, 2008 at 10:38 AM
This is a perfect example of backdoor lobbyist legislation that gets inserted into bills at the last minute without anyone knowing it. Thank goodness for the line item veto and thanks, Gov. Crist.
Posted by: deebee | June 10, 2008 at 10:48 AM
Rep. Will Kendrick - a name that needs to be remembered and voted AGAINST at the next election. As a matter of fact, I'm ready to clean house and vote against all incumbents. I'm tired of their same old games. Let's see what some new blood will do.
Posted by: Lucy | June 10, 2008 at 11:08 AM
Rep. Will Kendrick - a name that needs to be remembered and voted AGAINST at the next election. As a matter of fact, I'm ready to clean house and vote against all incumbents. I'm tired of their same old games. Let's see what some new blood will do.
Posted by: Lucy | June 10, 2008 at 11:10 AM
so the enviros were for it before they were against it
Posted by: | June 10, 2008 at 11:15 AM
veto? kind of awkward since 2 of his agencies have come out in favor of the bill. nice that cc would rather not take the recommendations of his own dep secretary in favor of what the newspaper says.
Posted by: | June 10, 2008 at 11:17 AM
Thanks Gov. Crist for doing the right thing and vetoing this bill. Thanks again!
Posted by: Wayne Jackson | June 10, 2008 at 11:38 AM
Yes, thanks Gov. Crist for doing the right thing and not listening to your agency recommendations in vetoing this bill. We all see who influences your decisions now.
Posted by: | June 10, 2008 at 12:11 PM
Unless there is studies that show that newly planted seagrass does not offer the same environmental benefits that "old seagrass" provides, then I see no reason why mitigation should not be allowed. Without a mitigation clause a developer would be more likely to destroy the seagrass if discovered on the site without notification, or (depending on the fine) just take the fine without worrying about replantation.
They do this for roadways. If a road has to be built through a wetland, any area that is affected is mitigated with the creation of new wetland areas, generally near pond sites.
Posted by: Matt | June 10, 2008 at 01:53 PM
Thank you to Governor Crist for the promised veto on this bill. For far too long developers have been allowed to buy their way around whatever they wanted and Florida's coastline, wildlife, and forests have suffered. Time to say "No" to developers and "Yes" to the preservation of our environment.
Posted by: Carol | June 10, 2008 at 01:53 PM
carol - if you're so concerned about "preservation of our environment" then why don't you send audubon society an email asking about profiting from oil and natural gas drilling on their largest nature preserve in Louisiana?
Posted by: | June 10, 2008 at 01:58 PM
I hate sea grass... I jump in the water behind my house and basically rip that stuff up... it gets in propellars... the kids hate it around their feet... it is just a pain to be around.
Posted by: | June 10, 2008 at 02:03 PM
Don't worry, people will be asking Audubon a lot of questions, especially after they nearly undercut everyone group working to stop this bad bill.
Posted by: | June 10, 2008 at 02:07 PM
Carol, 1:58 is right. If Audubon is allowing that to occur, then we should all object. We should object even more strenuously to the Bush/McCain hegemony that wants to sink wells all over the Gulf Coast of Florida, in the Everglades, and in the Arctic Nat Wildlife Refuge.
So please, Carol, Vote for Barack Obama, just as I'm sure the environmentalsit at 1:53 will be.
Posted by: | June 10, 2008 at 02:08 PM
Love the quote: "to save the seagrass, of course." What he really means is "cut law enforcement off at the knees so they are unable to fine anyone who destroys seagrass beds, of course."
Posted by: | June 10, 2008 at 02:10 PM
1:53 What are you talking about? As the law stands right now the Governor can still create mitigation banks if he wants with the approval of the Cabinet. This legislation makes it okay for people who destroy seagrass beds to be fined. This includes developers but also your average boaters who harm seagrass on a regular basis. And DEP still has to approve any new development anyway - this law doesn't change that...you don't know what you are talking about.
Posted by: | June 10, 2008 at 02:28 PM
I prefer to use one of those underwater rakes to pull up seagrass... like the one here...
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6748728-0-large.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6748728.html&h=802&w=1593&sz=258&hl=en&start=3&um=1&tbnid=XuLsSul1QgMY3M:&tbnh=76&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dunderwater%2Brake%26gbv%3D2%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den
Posted by: | June 10, 2008 at 02:30 PM
2:28 More lies and half-truths. Grow a conscience, you're a bad example even for Republicans.
Posted by: | June 10, 2008 at 02:36 PM
Keep doing the right thing Governor. The majority of real people are supporting you. Please dont ever let those special interests sway you from doing the right thing.
Posted by: | June 10, 2008 at 03:23 PM
2:36 It's not about having a conscience, it's about realizing this bill does more good than bad. You are probably one of the so-called "enviros" who only sees the negative, wants only good and no potential bad and then throws up your hands in defeat and accuses the Legislature of never doing anything to help the environment as you support the Governor vetoing a perfectly good bill.
Posted by: | June 10, 2008 at 04:08 PM
4:08 Nope, as you well know (but won't admit), it was a much better bill before the loser Rep. Will Kendrick, R-Carrabelle, tacked on the mitigation loophole for his developer pals. Replanting seagrass beds is not the same as leaving them undredged and undeveloped.
Rep. Will Kendrick, R-Carrabelle
Rep. Will Kendrick, R-Carrabelle
Rep. Will Kendrick, R-Carrabelle
Remember!
Posted by: | June 10, 2008 at 04:17 PM
4:17 And what you won't admit is there is no mitigation until this is actual damage, and there is no damage until a developer gets approved to build, and that process has not changed. A developer still has to go through the same process with DEP and the Cabinet to obtain a permit before building can even begin, and if it does not meet the standard of providing public benefit, demonstrating avoidance and minimization of impacts - then nothing will be damaged. Because why would DEP approve a permit they knew would damage seagrass beds? Also, the Cabinet already has the right to authorize mitigation banks. This bill doesn't change that either. I think your conspiracy theory has some holes.
Posted by: | June 10, 2008 at 04:27 PM
4:27 after doing some research it seems that you are right. I am still not comfortable with what this legislation could mean for developers but it does not change as much as the protesters want us to believe.
Posted by: | June 10, 2008 at 04:39 PM
What's getting lost in the back-and-forth here is that the public knows that developers aren't set up to do anything except look after their own profits, and when there's a conflict between private profit and public good we all know which one will win unless there are rules like "you can't destroy mangroves" or "you can't destroy seagrass beds no matter *who* you gave money to last election".
Making money is a natural thing for a business; for some of them, that means destroying something nice that existed there before. But just because something is natural doesn't mean it's good; it's natural for sharks to eat, but we still try to keep them away from the swimmers however we can.
Posted by: Chris W | June 10, 2008 at 04:53 PM
4:27 After reading the article in question, it sounds to me like you are just a disappointed developer or lobbyist shill trying to whitewash the issue.
The orginal Bill said: "Boaters who destroy seagrass will be fined."
Stop right there! Great idea, nothing wrong with that.
Now along comes the weasel:
Rep. Will Kendrick, R-Carrabelle
and introduces an addendum which would have "created a means for developers to GAIN PERMISSION to destroy seagrass beds through mitigation."
and you ask:
"why would DEP approve a permit they knew would damage seagrass beds?"
Answer: BECAUSE NOW ITS LEGAL TO DO SO!
Before:
Developer: "Hi, I'd like to build a marina that will trash 10 acres of seagrass."
DEP: No way! Trashing Seagrass is strictly illegal.
After:
Developer: "Hi, I'd like to build a marina that will trash 10 acres of seagrass."
DEP: "I hear the J.D. Alexander Parkway in Polk country needs some new sod in the right of way. $10,000.00 please!"* Any gopher tortoises you'd like to bury alive? There's a special this week.
Developer: "I'll take a dozen!"
* - $100 with a recent GOP campaign donation.
Posted by: | June 10, 2008 at 10:01 PM