Judge tosses Amendment 5 from ballot
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August 14, 2008

Judge tosses Amendment 5 from ballot

UPDATE: Gov. Charlie Crist, in a press avail in Tallahassee, just told reporters: "I was disappointed, but not dismayed. It will be appealed." He said what matters is the last court decision, "not the first." He added, "I hope it stays on the ballot. Most important to me is that the people have the opportunity to make the call. It's their Constitution."

Regarding the argument that the ballot title and summary are misleading, Crist said: “A headline is supposed to give you an idea about what’s in the body of the story. It was a headline. It didn’t seem inaccurate to me."
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A Tallahassee circuit court judge has deemed the wording of Amendment 5 misleading, stripping it from the November ballot.

"The court finds that the ballot title and summary provided in the proposition for Amendment 5 fail to fairly inform the voter, in clear and unambiguous language of the chief purposes of the amendment and the language of the title and summary, as written, is misleading in the forgoing respects," Judge John C. Cooper wrote. (Download the ruling as a PDF here.)

Cooper foreshadowed his decision with tough questions yesterday for lawyers for John McKay's Vote Yes on 5 committee and the Taxation and Budget Reform Commission, which placed the amendment on the ballot.

Cooper mainly faulted a provision that states that the lost funding for schools would be replaced with an "equivalent hold harmless amount." But funding was only guaranteed for one year, after which the Legislature would have to come up with new revenue sources.

The state is certain to appeal, and the case will likely go directly to the Florida Supreme Court.

Reaction from the Coalition to Protect Florida's Economy, which filed the challenge:

“I was very pleased with the way the arguments went yesterday and felt Judge Cooper had a firm understanding of the issues. Unfortunately for them, opposing counsel’s arguments fell short,” said the Coalition’s attorney Barry Richard.

“Florida voters want property tax relief – not a tax increase. Voting for Amendment 5 would be like buying a new shirt on sale for $20 and then being told you owe $50 more for the bag to take it home in” said the coalition spokeswoman Jennifer Green.

Rick McAllister of the Florida Retail Federation “Voters need clear information, and this amendment fell short. It was called a tax swap, but it was never clear what we were swapping for. Amendment 5 would have exposed Florida ’s schools to budget cuts by removing a stable property tax without a full explanation of how it would be replaced. It would have been left up to future Legislatures to deal with the unknown consequences and tax increases.”

Reaction from the Florida Association of Realtors, which supported the amendment:

“Homeownership is a fundamental right, and Floridians deserve a say on how their property is taxed," said FAR President Chuck Bonfiglio. “We are shocked that the court decided to deny property owners’ the ability to dramatically lower their property tax rates.”

If passed, Amendment 5 will cut property taxes by 25 percent, and in some counties up to 40 percent.  The Legislature is required to make up those dollars by a variety of ways, including but not limited to a one cent increase in the state sales tax, reviewing existing sales tax exemptions, and overall budget cuts.  Schools will still be funded, and held harmless under Amendment 5.   

The association will continue to monitor the appeals process as the amendment is expected to go to the District Court of Appeals and the Florida Supreme Court. 

Reaction from Sen. Mike Haridopolos, Amendment 5 opponent

Tallahassee, FL – Senator Mike Haridopolos, leading opponent of Amendment 5 and advocate for Florida’s future fiscal sustainability, released the following statement today in response to Leon County Circuit Judge John C. Cooper’s ruling to remove the tax-swap proposal from the November ballot.

“The ruling is a reflection of what so many voters have been telling us as we have been traveling the state to discuss the ramifications of Amendment 5.  The amendment's title and its proponents’ explanations do not match its true nature and impact on the state’s taxpayers and budget.

“This amendment is a bad deal for Florida and a bait and switch proposal of the worst kind.  Amendment 5 is clearly not a tax cut and our state’s education system, among others, would likely be harmed if this is embedded into our state’s Constitution. 

“Even though we consider today’s ruling a victory for the voters and taxpayers of Florida, we will continue to fight against the amendment until all appeals are exhausted and we are certain that Florida’s hardworking families are free from this crippling tax increase.”

Protect Florida’s Future is a coalition of Florida’s seniors, educators, health care providers, farmers, and small and large businesses dedicated to defeating Amendment 5. For more information on Protect Florida’s Future and Amendment 5, please visit www.protectfloridasfuture.com.

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“Judge tosses Amendment 5 from ballot”

Oh No!… why,why,why…. The $240 from Amendment 1 not only jump-started our economy like Chuck promised it would, I was also able to use it to pay off my school loans, open a small business, take a 4-week vacation to Europe, buy and fuel a new Hummer, and send my three kids to college.

Why on earth would they toss another great plan coming from Chuck and the dopes in Talahassee?

sad day for democracy...

he dropped it like a rock.

Thats a win for Mike Haridopolos.

A great day for democracy. Contrary to what the GOP wingnuts believe, the government works for you and not for the corporations. This latest attempt to destroy YOUR government has failed.

Quick, Chuck… get pretend engaged to another beard!!! That’ll trick ‘em into doing it!

boosh.

Spin it Erin, tell us how Gov. Crist thinks this is a good thing so we can make it better for the next time.
Why don't we just do things right the first time and not try to pull a fast on the people of Florida.

I certainly hope our Supreme Court Justices realize that this is a time sensative matter

GReat Job by the Tax Commission! Duh!

The governor should call the legislature back to session for property relief!

In fact, we should demand he do so!

Cristi was for it, before he was against it. Wow, that sounds familiar.

Of course, anything that would give meaningful relief is ruled misleading and thrown out.

Time to kill SOH - same tax rate for everyone!

from this point forward, anyone - TBRC, legislature, anyone wanting to buy a spot in Florida's constitution should submit 100 variations of a proposed amendment and then the judges might just find something they like.

Unbelievable!

I bought two dozen investment properties and made a killing on half of them. Now I'm left holding the bag on the other dozen and I'm trying to trick you into bailing me out. I knew what the taxes would be when I bought those properties, so I'm not "Overtaxed", I'm "Overinvested in the Real Estate Market"

1:56 - it did not come from Tallahassee - It came from a special Taxation and Budget committee that meets every 20 years....And unlike A1, it would have provided REAL property tax reduction. In some cases, 50% of your property tax bill. BTW, your bill is coming out on Friday. I for one would be ecstatic to have that miserable bill be reduced by 50% - I'm tired of supporting everyone else.....

I bet all the business associations are cracking the champagne tonight!

Down with homeowners!!

Big win for the businesses.

Oh well I guess the lobbyists have the judge in their pocket too.

This is the first step, but I agree, Governor, call the legislators back in session to reduce the taxes they refused to reduce during session while saying it was the job of the TBRC! I don't care if they are running for office or not** bring then back to do their job!

SOH = same tax rate for everyone.

Here's the formula:

Taxes = assessed value + no more than 3% additional per year. Name one homesteader that doesn't pay this rate.

2:33 Ha Ha the wingnuts lost. Fat chance.

Stop trying to con me into believing you can do anything truly meaningful about property taxes and FIX INSURANCE YOU PATHETIC MORONS!

Hello education? We want to cut off your head. Don't worry, here's a band-aid.

Rollback taxes and spending to 2002 levels, cap budgets and taxes at the CPI going forward, expand SOH to all property both residential and commercial, and vote every incumbent out of office at your first available opportunity.

Problem Solved!

FAR: OUT!

Unless the Supreme Court overturns, this was the last chance for this. Haridopolos acknowledges the Legislature does not have the fortitude to do any tax reform with teeth.
7 and 9 are probably doomed now, because the unions and AARPs and their business allies can now turn their fire on them.
Great days for democracy? Only when the people get a chance to vote, not a Leon County judge.

That Jennifer Green statement is saying what?? She's real bright uh? At least if you buy a shirt you have exercised your right to buy it or not. You could even buy it and decide to return it. How does that compare to taxing property owners for education? Let's all give our property back to the banks and refuse to pay taxes and then see if it is the same.

Waaaaaaa, I made a bad investment… waaaaaaaaa… someone bail me out… waaaaaaaaaa… I quit my career, took a test, and bought some flip property cause I thought I knew what I was doing… waaaaaaaaa… and I didn’t… waaaaaaaa… now I can’t sell cause the politicians f—ked it all up due to their incompetence… waaaaaaaa… and I voted for them too… waaaaaaaaaa… make someone else pay for my poor decisions… waaaaaaaaa…

That's it. I am closing my store before I have to pay the property taxes. I was hoping this would pass and I could hang on. I can no long afford to have a business here. Thanks for kicking the little businesses when they are down. Celebrate your win and know you have destroyed the state of Florida. Great job. I hope you are proud.

It doesnt 2:42, Mike H. thought that line up, so they must parrot it to be in favor with him.

Thank you, thank you thank you. Goes to prove to all of us that the TBRC tried to pull a fast one on all of the citizens of Florida.

Rant and Rave and post meaningless TaxWatch slogans. Hurry hurry hurry go back to the drawing board we still have a little more time while the Norquistas are still in power. We need to destroy local government because they are spending money like drunken sailors on their citizens and not on our big business cronies and they keep trying to tell us we can't make florida into a paved over wasteland of empty untaxed condo that the rest of you will have to pay for. Again.

Problem Solved!

2:34 - I am talking about the same for everyone, regardless of homestead or not... no capping, no portability...

Pay taxes on the value of your property.

I am sure someone in a phallic symbol in Tallahassee has done an analysis of what the actual value of homesteaded property in Florida is vs. SOH protected value vs. the rest (businesses, summer homes, etc.). Quit pandering to keep votes by perpetuating the most inequitable tax structure ever.

God help me. A wife and 2 children, now I have to give up my home. I bought a home 4 years ago and the taxes are doubling my payments. I hope God please help me find a way to tell my family we have to move.

Alex, the lawyers in court were for the State of Florida from McCollum's office and the TBRC, not Mckay.

"...be like buying a new shirt on sale for $20 and then being told you owe $50 more for the bag to take it home in” said the coalition spokeswoman Jennifer Green.

Still better off with amendment 5 since the previous price was $100 with a free bag...

McKay needs to get a real job instead of trying to put crap like this on the ballot!! Try again McKay...

Florida Chamber of Commerce Calls for Special Session on Property Tax Relief

The Florida Chamber of Commerce applauds Judge Cooper’s actions and the efforts of the Coalition to Protect Florida’s Economy in their legal challenge. This decision will help remove a cloud of uncertainty for consumers and business owners over looming tax increases.

We want to recognize the hard work of the Taxation and Budget Reform Commission to provide property tax relief and taxpayer fairness. Our property tax system remains unfair and unsustainable. There is so much left to be done to provide Floridians with comprehensive property tax relief.

The Florida Chamber of Commerce requests that following the November election Governor Charlie Crist call an immediate special session of the Florida Legislature to address comprehensive property tax relief.

See our letter to Gov. Crist with proposed tax relief and taxpayer fairness solutions at www.floridachamber.com.

Mark Wilson, Florida Chamber of Commerce

2:50 you are a total idiot! SOH is in the constitution. The people would have to vote it out of the constitution. What do you think the odds are of that happening? That is the same crap you posted for Amendment 1 and you didn't listen then when told your plan is stupid!!

Give Jennifer Green the bag, she needs it!

yeah!!!!

I hope everyone enjoys their tax cut, it will probably be around $50. Not joking.

Rollback taxes and spending to 2002 levels, cap budgets and taxes at the CPI going forward, expand SOH to all property both residential and commercial, and vote every incumbent out of office at your first available opportunity.

Problem Solved!


2:54 - cheer while you can. Your portability feature will probably rule soh unconstitutional as well. School funding should NOT be provided by property taxes anyway. You freaking idiot.

get ready homeowners. The state will just continue to force homeowners to cover more and more of our education budget at the local level. keep cutting at the state level and keep raising the RLE.

at least these business associations don't have to worry about paying their fair share.

SOH = value sheltered from tax based on the date of purchase of your home, which is guaranteed to continue even when you move with portability.

Too bad our children coudn't buy a home when they were infants. They will never have the advantage of those who purchased years ago.

Time for state income tax and drastically slash property tax for all. Then perhaps EVERYONE will pay their fair share.

Waaaaaaaaaaa... I'm stuck with three mortages and no economy to help… waaaaaaaa… you promised you’d fix it, Chuck!… waaaaaaaaaaa… my trophy wife will leave me for a riche sports figure… waaaaaaaaaa… I’ll have to sell my Hummer with the magnet Real Estate signs on it… waaaaaaaaaa… I made a poor investment decision and someone else should pay for it… waaaaaaaaaaaaa…

2:54 - and how is that amendment 1 working out???

Yes, I know SOH is in the constitution. It is still the problem.


Alex, you need to make a correction. Amendment 5 only "holds education harmless" for one school year, 2010-2011. After that, let the slashing of education begin if it makes it back on the ballot and passes!

Waaaaaaa… my neighbor bought in a better market… waaaaaaaaa… I fell for the trick… waaaaaaaaaaa… make him pay the same taxes on his ’82 Chevy that I had to pay on my ’08 Hummer… waaaaaaaaaa…

They should call it the destruction of public education amendment. Then it won't be misleading. Once we teach kids how to read they can go to work at the factory or in the fields like in other third world countries. Why should we pay for schools. Only rich republicans need to be educated. I'm very upset I have to pay for poor kids to go to school. Let them eat cake.

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