Preach this: Gay marriage foes step up efforts

John Stemberger, head of the effort to enshrine a ban on same sex marriage in the Florida Constitution, is rallying the troops with a call for pastors statewide to address the issue Oct. 19, the day before early voting begins. For the uninspired, Yes on 2 even provides a sample sermon. (click on image to enlarge)

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[ctb]

Aw c'mon - didja REALLY need to spam this page like that? A coupla excerpts & links would've sufficed.

As for the topic of the article, all I can say is WOW! haven't those people a single shred of decency? Or sense?

Palins Churchs True View of Jews

Are Evangelicals Really Sold on Palin?
Saturday, Sep. 06, 2008
By AMY SULLIVAN

speakers charge that violence against Israelis is divine punishment for the failure of Jews to accept Jesus, as happened at one of Palin's churches two weeks ago

[Florida with REAL problems]

Since every other strategy has failed to work for the McCain campaign team, the goal now is to polarize Americans on the "real" issues of... wait for it....

abortion, guns, and gays.

Yeah, that's the CHANGE they want...

When Americans are facing the highest job loss rates in 6 years... when home foreclosures have hit record highs...

the Bush/Rove team of surrogates running John McCain's campaign want you to worry about whether someone loves someone of the same sex.

WHO CARES? Will that buy groceries? Does it affect the price of milk? Can it get your car to run on fumes?

Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago? Heck, are you breaking even?

I'm a Florida voter with REAL problems. I don't CARE about what gays do unless they are the cause of high gas prices, food prices, the recession or causing me to lose my job!

[liberals are mean spirited]

colleagues in the American liberal press had little to fear at the start of the week. Their charismatic candidate was ahead in virtually every poll. George W Bush was so unpopular that conservatives were scrambling around for reasons not to invite the Republican President to the Republican convention. Democrats had only to maintain their composure and the White House would be theirs. During the 1997 British general election, the late Lord Jenkins said that Tony Blair was like a man walking down a shiny corridor carrying a precious vase. He was the favourite and held his fate in his hands. If he could just reach the end of the hall without a slip, a Labour victory was assured. The same could have been said of the American Democrats last week. But instead of protecting their precious advantage, they succumbed to a spasm of hatred and threw the vase, the crockery, the cutlery and the kitchen sink at an obscure politician from Alaska.

For once, the postmodern theories so many of them were taught at university are a help to the rest of us. As a Christian, conservative anti-abortionist who proved her support for the Iraq War by sending her son to fight in it, Sarah Palin was 'the other' - the threatening alien presence they defined themselves against. They might have soberly examined her reputation as an opponent of political corruption to see if she was truly the reformer she claimed to be. They might have gently mocked her idiotic creationism, while carefully avoiding all discussion of the racist conspiracy theories of Barack Obama's church.

But instead of following a measured strategy, they went berserk. On the one hand, the media treated her as a sex object. The New York Times led the way in painting Palin as a glamour-puss in go-go boots you were more likely to find in an Anchorage lap-dancing club than the Alaska governor's office.

On the other, liberal journalists turned her family into an object of sexual disgust: inbred rednecks who had stumbled out of Deliverance. Palin was meant to be pretending that a handicapped baby girl was her child when really it was her wanton teenage daughter's. When that turned out to be a lie, the media replaced it with prurient coverage of her teenage daughter, who was, after all, pregnant, even though her mother was not going to do a quick handover at the maternity ward and act as if the child was hers.

Hatred is the most powerful emotion in politics. At present, American liberals are not fighting for an Obama presidency. I suspect that most have only the haziest idea of what it would mean for their country. The slogans that move their hearts and stir their souls are directed against their enemies: Bush, the neo-cons, the religious right.

In this, American liberals are no different from the politically committed the world over. David Cameron knew that he would never be Prime Minister until he had killed the urgent hatred of the Conservative party in liberal England. A measure of his success is that hardly anyone now is caught up by the once ubiquitous feeling that no compromise is too great if it stops the Tories regaining power. Hate can sell better than hope.

When a hate campaign goes wrong, however, disaster follows. And everything that could go wrong with the campaign against Palin did. American liberals forgot that the public did not know her. By the time she spoke at the Republican convention, journalists had so lowered expectations that a run-of-the-mill speech would have been enough to win the evening.

As it was, her family appeared on stage without a goitre or a club foot between them, and Palin made a fighting speech that appealed over the heads of reporters to the public we claim to represent. 'I'm not going to Washington to seek their good opinion,' she said as she deftly detached journalists from their readers and viewers. 'I'm going to Washington to serve the people of this country.'

English leftists made the same mistake of allowing their hatred to override their judgment after the Iraq war. If they had confined themselves to charging Tony Blair with failing to find the weapons of mass destruction he promised were in Iraq, and sending British troops into a quagmire, they might have forced him out. They were so consumed by loathing, however, they insisted that he had lied, which he clearly had not. They set the bar too low and Blair jumped it with ease. 'When a man believes that any stick will do, he at once picks up a boomerang,' said GK Chesterton, and when the politically committed go on a berserker you should listen for the sound of their own principles smacking them in the face.

Journalists who believe in women's equality should not spread sexual smears about a candidate, or snigger at her teenage daughter's pregnancy, or declare that a mother with a young family cannot hold down a responsible job for the pragmatic reason that they will look like gross hypocrites if they do. Before Palin, we saw hypocrisy of the right when shock jocks who had spent years denouncing feminism came over all politically correct when Bill Clinton had an affair with Monica Lewinsky.

In Britain, the most snobbish attacks on Margaret Thatcher did not come from aristocrats but from the communist historian Eric Hobsbawm, who opined that Thatcherism was the 'anarchism of the lower middle classes' and the liberal Jonathan Miller, who deplored her 'odious suburban gentility'. More recently, George Osborne, of the supposedly compassionate Conservative party, revealed himself to be a playground bully when he derided Gordon Brown for being 'faintly autistic'.

In an age when politics is choreographed, voters watch out for the moments when the public-relations facade breaks down and venom pours through the cracks. Their judgment is rarely favourable when it does. Barack Obama knows it. All last week, he was warning American liberals to stay away from the Palin family. He understands better than his supporters that it is not a politician's enemies who lose elections, but his friends.

NEWSFLASH: Sorry, defenders of "traditional Marriage". No gay person is out to get YOU in a compromising position. Sad but true. You'll just have to be content with fantasizing about it...

Whoa 4:18 !! The McCain campaign doesn;t have anythig to do with these crazies. Like McCain, like Obama does not support a Marriage Amendment. Palin signed domestic partnership benefits into law in Alasta.

That's those agents of intolerance again. Let's get rid of them once and for all. Vote for a REAL Republican - fiscal conservative, strong on National defense and REAL problems.

McCAIN / PALIN!

John Stemberget may have had a very trumatic "event" in his young life. Why else the venom?

[nobush3rd]

"The McCain campaign doesn;t have anythig to do with these crazies."

um... he also wasn't against Roe v. Wade until it became politically expedient to be so. Now he is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZHeowtJcQw

So don't tell me about John McCain's position on anything. EVEN John McCain doesn't know what his position it because it is whatever the neoCONs want it to be.

Because with all these real issues to worry about: food on the table, gas prices, losing homes, losing jobs, no healthcare, energy issues....

Somehow, John McCain decides to enlist a crazy bat who wants to teach creationism in schools along with that good old solution of abstinence for birth control.... and to outlaw Roe v. Wade...

So don't tell me he isn't part of those crazies because HE IS.

McCain/Palin = BUSH/CHENEY = More of the SAME.

[POW in Missouri]

John McCain = BUSH

Geo. Bush had his Iraq; Sarah Palin is Geo. Bush WITH a rack.

or maybe Dick Cheney with lipstick.

NO BUSH THIRD TERM. NO BUSH THIRD TERM. NO BUSH THIRD TERM. NO BUSH THIRD TERM. NO BUSH THIRD TERM. NO BUSH THIRD TERM. NO BUSH THIRD TERM. NO BUSH THIRD TERM. NO BUSH THIRD TERM. NO BUSH THIRD TERM.

5:12 (AKA 5:14) take your meds. You are hallucinating.

[Paul D. Harvill]

Posted by: | September 07, 2008 at 03:39 PM
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For those interested in such theological questions, I refer you to:

http://forums.miami.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=kr-miaminews&msg=29150.12&ctx=131072

what a waste of everyones time and effort.

grow up you stupid preacher

If Palin and Stemberger are so out of touch then why the great worry as expressed above?

Once these social issues such as same sex marriage are settled hopefully we can all get along better without the back and forth. People are extremely polorized and there does not seem to be many olive branches being held out.

One thing that I have been surprised to learn is how mean spirited those supporting the homosexual agenda are. I believe this is going to cause a backlash. That will not be good for any of us but at least we will all know where we honestly stand.

Parents are becoming more aware of the homosexual agenda and are better able to play a constructive role in preventing activist driven misinformation and recruitment. Therefore, I question if we even need the legislation.

3:39 PM

Do you really want to go there? Let's talk about Barry's church!!!

Barry Obama = Jimmy Carter.

No to another disaster of Carter economic and foreign policies!

And NO to Obama the Baby Killer!!

Obama--voted with Bush 84% of the time.

Yeh, that's change!!!!

Still more change that McCain = McBush = McSame = McNasty

Obama and his minister/friend are anti-Israel. Check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnI431s1r6s

The lefties don't understand that you have to give people more than ctachy slogans. That gets old and they want SUBSTANCE. Poor Barack HUSSEIN Obama is SOL in that department.

GulpityGulpity, gulpgulpgulp… What’s my opinion today Mr. Hanity… GulpityGulpity, gulpgulpgulp… What’s my opinion today Mr. Limbaugh… mmmmmmm, this kool aid is scrumptious… I say we give an angry portico the launch codes! … GulpityGulpity, gulpgulpgulp…

… simps

[Busty Beauty Queen Barbie]

I MAY BE BROKE BUT IM NOT FLAT BUSTED

[BHO-I Love Larry!!]

I MAY HAVE BIG EARS, BUT I SURE DO LOVE LARRY SINCLAIR. MY KNEES SHOW IT TOO!!

"Church action kits on sale for a limited time only".

Nobody in their right mind has the time to be this pornologically obsessed with the lives of other people (unless of course you are just pornologically obessed).

However, everyone seems to make time for some profit - and why not. And that, my friends, is what all of this is about. Profit - pure and simple.

And yes, my friends, you have been SUCKERED!

6:52 Did you make that up or did the big fat idiot tell you exactly what to say? Go grow a brain.

8:02 - speaking of pornological is that a tongue in your cheak?

Doesn't preaching in favor of this amendment in a church jeopardize their tax exempt status? I think every pastor that delivers a sermon on ANYTHING political, should have his or her church's tax exempt status removed for at least 5 years.

Building heaven on Earth, I can't wait.
I'll get to act out all my hate.
Not like me, a sinner you are.
Can't you see, persecute you far.

I'm holy, you're not so get bent.
your second class citizenship is heaven sent.

[Trailer Park Bubba!]

When are you people gonna leave the homertesticles and lesbotarians alone?

If Thsskip want to take half of Bruce’s stuff when he catches him playing another man’s meat whistle… I say let him… or her… or it… whatever…

If Mike wants to take half of Mac’s stuff when she catches her cleaning another woman’s carpet… I say let her… or him… or it… whatever…

It will just be a matter of time before Stemberger offers some guy $20 in a park, taps his feet in a bathroom, texts his assistant with something creepy, or gets outed by his male massage therapist.

There has to be something deeper going on for him to work out all this guilt.

Tick, tock, tick, tock, tick.......

This is just a tactic to rile the rightwingnutjob base and get them to the voting booth. The polls are a joke and completely unreliable, Palin is more of an insult to women than a draw, McCain excites them as much as soggy roll of toilet paper, and their entire Party has abandoned them in favor of desperate and populist attempts to win at any costs.

McCain is clearly willing to lose a nation to win a campaign.