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August 25, 2008

Vinny: I'll be ready for opener

Vinny2 Caught up with Vinny Lecavalier the other day, and the Lightning's superstar center, coming off arthroscopic surgery on his right shoulder, said he is skating in his native Montreal and has no doubt he will be ready for training camp. As for being cleared for contact and being ready to start the regular season, he said, "I'm sure I'll be ready to play."

The key is being cleared for contact. By the time training camp starts, Lecavalier will have healed for five months. That, according to his understanding, is the quickest he can be cleared.

"Once training camp starts, basically I would be allowed full contact," Lecavalier said. "But the first days I would want to build confidence. Even though it might be good, it can still get very sore. One step at a time."

The steps have been long and grueling since Lecavalier sustained a torn glenoid labrum in what was supposed to be his last game of the season, April 3 at Washington. Lecavalier, you recall, was supposed to have arthroscopic surgery to repair his sore right wrist, an operation Lecavalier's agent Kent Hughes on Monday said is"off the table at this point". Lecavalier was going to skip the final game against the Thrashers. He missed it all right, but after his shoulder was hurt on a questionable check by Washington's Matt Cooke. He had surgery April 15.

Lecavalier said the first time he skated he had a stick in his hand and felt "terrible. It didn't feel like where I wanted to be. I couldn't shoot. I was like, 'Oh, my god, I'm not feeling right.' Not to be able to shoot like I normally can was disappointing."

He said he has skated five or six times since.

"It's not 100 percent, but it's getting better and my shots are getting better," Lecavalier said.

In addition to rehabbing, Lecavalier bought a house he said is about 30  minutes from downtown Montreal. And he recently took a week off from rehab for a getaway  with long-time girlfriend Caroline Portelance. But clearly his days mostly have been taken up with rehab.

"With a shoulder injury like this, you do something for the first time and haven't done it in a while, it feels terrible," Lecavalier said. "But the second time it's way better. It's like the first time I did a push-up four weeks ago; oh, my god. But the next day I could have done 10. You just build your shoulder and confidence about not getting hurt again. You have to be careful. ... I'm still getting stronger and building it up, but I'm way better than the first day, so I'm excited."   

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Scott contact the Bolts Team trainer through the main number. You will have to leave a number.

He will point you to the right guys.

Do you wear any special brace on your shoulder pads and what type do you wear? My son is a hockey player and recently hurt his shoulder and we have to purchase the correct type of shoulder pads/brace- that will be fitting for after him rehabing. Any advice or suggestions for a brand name and type of brace for the shoulder?

I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO A GREAT SEASON. GO BOLTS!

Leo, What I said was that not having Boyle would improve us in our own end, not necessarily our overall game. No, I don't think Mezsaros is enough, and Ok and Len may not be done yet. I think we gave up too much for him, but only time will tell. Not sure our defense is better adding 1 and subtracting 2. I guess I might be a little more comfortable about our power play. Kuba had 15 goals in 06-07', but he specialized in the Torts syle stick-checking defense. I had high hopes that Pickard would develop into a top four d someday. I would have to guess that there is still some wheeling and dealing planned, so I'll withhold my overall judgment of the deal until I see what other moves are made.

Ok Mezsaros (or whatever).
Boyle SWITCHED for Mezsaros. (again, Don, here I don't mean traded)
Is that enough for the TB D this coming year?
P.

well his movement will create less work for the Tbay tendon surgeons, that's a good thing.

There you go. Thanx Steve.
And one more thing,
Since I was man enough to "unavoid" the Vrbata issue, maybe Don can do the same on the issue HE brought up and that now HE avoids.
That, (get this), you will be better off WITHOUT Boyle, with no one yet to replace him.
Don?
Maybe my perception was selective; educate me.
P.

leo, he came from cactus country via, the windy city, tar heel land and the mile high city.

"the details don't matter"?, "selective dyslexia"?
Don, I'll say it again: just because you don't understand doesn't make ME incoherent. And because you didn't pick up on the hockey lingo I used (which ALL others did) doesn't make ME mistaken.
Consider that you're the ONLY one who accuses me of thinking that Malone/Brad was a trade. "The details don't matter; all that matters is the truth of what was said"? Good grief. Well, in that case, Don, a case could be argued for "selective perception" instead of "selective dyslexia", wouldn't you agree?
Now, as for avoiding the Vrbata angle, are you dealing in beads??? Vrbata? Ok, yes, he's a good pickup; never said he wasn't.
But I agreed with PD that he's a nobody. A "nobody", you cry? Yes. Where's he from, Don, Nashville or Phoenix? I forget.
Nasville/Phoenix to Tampa. Who is this guy? 27 goals? Higgins had 27 goals too. In Mtl, not Nashville/Phoenix. Plus, We think he's had a bad year.
Who would you rather have?
K the Elder had 27 goals too. In Mtl, not Nashville/Phoenix. Plus, he's just a kid.
Who would you rather have?
One who scores under Fire? Or one who scores in Nashville/Phoenix?
I consider Malone to be worth more as a player than Vrbata SIMPLY because Malone has SHOWN that he produces under Fire, whereas good'ole Radim hasn't. Who's got more goals?
Hey, given the proper setting, maybe Vrbata is just waiting to explode and to SHOW me and the rest of hockey-planet that he ISN'T a nobody, that he can shine under Fire...for what the Fire' worth in TB.
Honestly, without checking anywhere, without googlin', who IS Vrbata? Where's he from?
What is it? Nyi, Pho? Stl, Nas?
I have no idea.
A nobody. Let's see him play. Let's all let him become somebody.
P.

And see Pitt. Until they gave up the farm for Hossa that is. That trade is going to hurt them for the next couple of years.

Its the only way Steve, see Detroit.
You need the young developed homegrowners to work cheap for a while and then fill with a couple of key free agents.

The other way around can't be done. Its like a dog chasing its tail.

PD, well said. Realistic about this season and hopeful about the future with good scouting/drafting and the farm system. Nothing wrong with that approach.

Leo, me thinks Don was taking it too literally , I see it as you do, what came out of the washing machine.
I also see 2 impossible to buy stars, go down the pie hole. (Actually I didnt copy you, same wavelength on this one).

No expectations for the leafs other than that they are doing it the right way finally, the only way to win..growing your own.
If I said Leafs would challenge for 1st In Ne then that would be equivocal to the most recent Donism.

Ajax we all get to wear the pointed hat, share brother.

You all are taking this way to serious. Find Zen. Breath deep.
Think Karllson, Ward, Darche, Homer and McDonald. Without those 5 how could anyone argue we are not better??
And let's get one thing straight for alllllll to know. I "AM" the chief IDIOT on the blog. Please don't steal my title!!!

Don, I may be proven wrong, but I really don't see you guys in the hunt to win the SE.

Agree with you that Vrbata was a good pick up. He'll do good for you on the 2nd line.

Leo The details don;'t matter as much as the truth of what was said. Your implication was that we had traded Brad for Malone. You've also ( totally in charachter from previous posts ) refused to answer the question where if Vrbata is a nobody then the K btorthers and everyone els on the sHABS are nobodies too. Your selective dyslexia serves nobody but yourself and PD, who maintains his Leaf leanings to a fault and worships the formerly traded players.

Excellent, Don! Yes, indeed, the matter should be settled quickly.
Yes, I said "Malone for Brad". You notice that right afterwards, PD COPIED/PASTED my post and said that was EXACTLY what he was saying. Therefor, by your rationale, PD ALSO thinks Brad was a trade for Malone. Correct?
So I put it out there: PD?
When you agreed with me, did you think Malone was TRADED for Brad?
Whatever the outcome, Don, is THAT a spin? I'm spinnin' this to save face after making a goof?
Or do you REALLY think I thought Malone was traded for Brad?...after I harped so much about a goalie for TB during the year?...after I kept referring to Brad's contract as the BALL'N'CHAIN (remember folks?)...after I ran my mouth about Smith and kinda still do so? I thought Brad was traded for Malone?
PD? (the leaf enemy, mind!)
Straighten this out, wouldja?
You understood that "switch" and "for" didn't mean "trade", or didn't you?
P.

I expect the team to start off poorly (new players, new coach, new system plus tiring trip to Europe) and gradually get better as the season goes...playoffs?...maybe, but I am cautious...

Leo in your previous post before your response it clearly says "Malone for Richards", no matter how you want to spin it. PD, I respect your opinion, but we disagree a lot and this is one of those times. Slam me if you want, but the bolts will be challenging the CrAPS for the SE title and putting a heap of pressure on the pens, flys and sHABS. Toronto meanwhile will be dead last in the NE and fighting just to stay ahead of the Isle and Thrash.

Don you used the $ for what again?

Curly, Larry and a couple of 40 year old, past glory, shmoes.
Totally interchangeable guys that are readily available at the NHl's dollar store.

Malone came because Tbay overpaid by at least 500 a year and he won't have Malkin to prepare his dinner.

Meanwhile you let Brad Richards and Boyle bonafide producing NHL stars just go for hope, wishes and poorly spent cap space.

Imagine even Feasty, if you will, with a max salary cap to spend. He would keep Marty, Brad, Vinny, Dan, add Stamkos and still have the money to buy a few key parts like a shut down D or two and a goalie. Then add some guys to work the wall cheap and voila..somthing to crow about.

They have blown it playing sports monopoly. Yes time will tell and very quickly. This team ,as currently constructed, is destined for fighting the Pants for 3rd in the South Least/

Regardless of how badly you click your heels and wish it to be different.

Don,
Could you please show me WHERE I said you traded Brad for Malone?
I never said that.
I said "switched", as in "replaced". Did I not say that? Never said traded. I can wait while you check...cool?
Ok, so that's ONE thing taken care of. Secondly, if my post REMAINS idiotic, please point it out to me; the last thing I want to do is waste everybody's time with things that I simply don't understand or am too unlearned to comment about.
Please. I'm not being smarmy; please let me benefit from your insight.
For the record, from the deadline's roster, SWITCHING Brad for Malone and ADDING Vrbata, Recchi and Roberts is enough for you at forward?
And the loss of Boyle on an already slim blueline with NO replacement is incidental to you?
For me to think otherwise is "idiotic", yes?
As for losin yer cool, don't worry about it; I fully accept my role as Nemesis on this blog. Just because We take a high moral ground in Mtl doesn't mean everybody has to. No worries.
But as nemesises go, Don, I'm pretty nice, aren't I? (raging elitism aside) I like to think my volleys are well-oiled affairs, equal parts pee, equal parts vinegar with but a wee dash of honey to perfume the morsel.
You didn't think everything was gonna be peaches'n'cream though, didja?
If I'm wrong or misinformed or forgetting an important detail, well lo!, please educate me and I'll be better for it.
So where am I idiotic?
Hit me.
Thanks in advance.
P.

Leo, Sorry for calling you an idiot, but the post you made certainly made you look like one. We traded Brad for Smith, Halpern and Jokinen, not Malone. We used the money we saved to sign Malone. If you consider Vrbata and others nobodies than I guess all those lousy sHAB players who scored 27 goals are nobodies too the right? Leo you take great joy in insulting our intelligence, so sorry if I was a little abrupt but you post was and still is idiotic.

I please to aim, mate.
P.

leo, I for one feel much better after insulting you. It's cheaper than therapy.

Took a month to go from "the most knowledgeble poster on this blog" (your words, Don, yes or no?) to an "idiot" (I assume you were referring to me). What happened?
You say you're better off without Boyle; I say that's cuckoo and I'M the idiot?
What, what, what???
Hey, Don, I'm sorry. You know what? You're right. You ARE better off without Boyle; Recchi'll slip back; you'll be ok.
Sorry. Ok? I'm sorry.
Whew, resorting to personal attacks once your points are questioned, Don, people'll start to think you break easy.
I always have time for those who disagree with me! That's the whole fun. None of them are "idiots" for that, Don. Not in my book. Cuz the truth is, there is no wise'ole man, whether I say cuckoo or not. I'm right here; hit me. If you dare.
Cuz if you were brave enough to stand up for a point you saw as solid, you would've.
But you didn't. You called me an idiot instead.
...you refuse to argue with idiots...Oh, how NOBLE of you, sir. To STUBBORNLY refuse to look CUCKOO defending your point, you mean. Right? THAT'S what you REALLY mean, right?
Insulting or demeaning folks, yuck, We don't do that, ever. ANOTHER singular difference between Us and you.
If you love hockey; We accept you, cuckoo or not. You're certainly not an idiot, Don, not in my book.
Anyways, back on point: PD's right. Malone for Brad and nobodies added. Can't count Halpern, Jokinen cuz they came with the Brad/Smith deal. Roberts, Recchi, Vrbata, no D as add-ons? Not enough.
Feel free to insult me some more if this fact soothes you.
Peace.

Leo, I refuse to argue with idiots. I will only say, we'll see.

Yeah PD! Roberts won a Cup in Calgary!
Hello?
And Recchi won Cups in Pit and Car! Tampa is SET. These guys are LEADERS, PD, champion scorers whose decrepitness belies the fact that they are Supreme players that will completely change the outlook of this team into one of WINNERS.
Wake up, PD. Gotta question your judgement too. I'd MUCH rather have Recchi/Roberts instead of Brad, why, with those Cup-winners, I could...I could...snort!...BWAAA-haaaa-haaaa! Oh! Sorry, I couldn't keep a straight face!
Don! Don, c'mon, snap out of it. You still "tipsy"? C'mon, this isn't you,
"..we will actually be better in our own end without Boyle and Richards..."
Don! Better WITHOUT Boyle???
San Jose has Boyle INSTEAD of Campbell. I wonder if they are not MUCH better off. MUCH better.
Brad for Malone, Don. That's your switch.
And yes, nobodies, to fill out your depth concerns AND Boyle.
...better without Boyle...Cuckoo!
C'mon, Don. Have a coffee, go outside, walk around, grab some nice fresh air for a bit, few more sips of coffee, then come back, refreshed and clear and we'll be here, mate. We'll be here for you. C'mon.
Cuz... ouch!
That was... that was ouch!, mate.
P.

PD, I have to question your judgement if you consider Malone, Vrbata, Recchi, Roberts, Halpern and Jokinen as nobodies. I seem to remember that Roberts won a cup with Clagary and that Recchi won cups with Pitt and Carolina. Vrbata and Malone both had 27goals last year. Sorry to burst your bubble PD, but we will actually be better in our own end without Boyle and Richards. The power play will be a work in progress in how we replace Boyle and Richards.

Heh Don a new coach doesnt make an AHLer into an NHLer and you remain bang on 8 nobodies are much better than Richards and Boyle.

I would sign any free agents from the West. Leagues go in cycles and right now the West is much better. Hence, their castoffs will be better than the East castoffs. Pretty simple. Last year all we had was castoffs. I am now casting off.

As I had posted months ago, apparently the Lightning have some interest in Keith Carney and Mark Popovic. If they sign Popovic, it would probably be a 2 way deal and in my opinion a waste as we already have decent depth on the backline in the system. Carney is a different animal though, the tough, steady stay at home veteran that could mentor our young defensive core. Although he only played 3rd pairing minutes with the wild last season, he could probably be had for cheap money and is an amazing +164 for his career. That is just sick, +164! Who has those kinds of number, Scott Stevens? I think Carney would be a huge addition to our backline and on the Wild blogs many are moaning about his departure from the Wild.

Leo, I was not trying to bash you on that post. I was trying to answer your question. I was a little tipsy by then and didn't elucidate my thoughts well enough. It was actually PD I was accusing of having the man crush on Boyle and Richards. and whose view I meant was Scewed. I personally believe Malone will exceed his production from last year. He'll see a lot of Time on the PP, likely even the 1st unit with V4 and Marty. They definitely wanted him for his grit and to cover SS's back. Our D is not as bad as you make out Leo. The year before last Kuba had 15 goals and a positive +/-. Ranger was our best player when we lost to Ottawa in the playoffs and had 10 doals last year, but only 2 in the second half after injuring his shoulder. O'Brien was excellent when he came over from the Sharks at the end of 07'. Pickard has proven he's a solid physical defender and will only get better. Most of these guys were in Tort's doghouse at one time or another, and I think it's safe to say a clean start under a new coach and a new system, will be like a breath of fresh air. That being said I still think you have to be shoppers now and at the trade deadline if you're in the hunt. The guy I was really impressed with last year was Jan Hejda of Columbus. I had him at the top of my shopping list but he resigned with Col a few weeks before the FA period started. No speculation on who they might deal for as there is no way of knowing for sure who will be out of the hunt.

Oh, hello! Might be movement...
After Bob's half resignated, half sour grape tone of yesterday, "He hasn't ever really shown any privilege towards Us - At his age, has he kept himself enough inshape this summer to be ready for training-camp?", it would seem the dream is over.
Then this little ditty,
Carbo seriously thinking about giving K the Younger center duties. We LOVE it! Not the biggest guy in the world but a raging puma filled with brains.
You remember the young K of course. He's the one who made Kane and Gagner the players they are today.
Oh, and We LOVE to see guys hit him to "get him off his game". He's unexpectedly brutal.
Along with Gorges, a Shining Light in the playoffs.
But is it enough?
You can tear into me now.
P.

Sakic signs for a year.
No Sundin in Colorado.
1 down, 5 to go.
P.

True dat, Steve.
But, personally, I think Malone's value went sky-high because of his Grit more than his production, especially in the playoffs, where pts matter most and where Grit prevails in them.
Still, we have to remember that Malone seasoned out at 54-55 pts (or whatever) playing with Malkin, so maybe TB can't expect him to produce MORE than that playing on a less (sorry but you know it) talented team than Pit.
Now, should you get to the PLAYOFFS, THAT'S where Malone's gotta show that he's worth all that dough yer givin'im.
If that's TB's plan, which is an excellent one, then WHO'S the D gonna be to back up this plan? Cuz there ain't no plan without no D.
Ask Ajax, he'll tell you aaaaaaall about it.
Who you buyin'?
Who you tradin' for?
Where's he comin' from?
Can you trust'im?
And will 1 be enough?
No D? You're sunk. S.-U.-N.-K. Sunk.
Tell me you guys at least have a list of suspects.
P.

excellent point S and not a tap in like half his points likely were. Bolts way over paid for him.

Don, who was Malone's center for most of his 27? Malkin? You think he's going to match that production?

That's right, PD.
KOVY, Don!
Get your man-crush attributations straight, would you please?
Thanx PD.
P.

Aj,totally agree about Melrose.

How do climb back from 10 years of caviar in the booth?

Leo I thought your man crush was on Kovy...you cheatin??

Think you got me confused with another poster, Don.
I'm looking at what you're saying to me and I don't understand how it relates to anything I accused Vinny of vis-à-vis Prospal and Brad...whom I now supposedly have a crush on...uhhhh...I look back at what I wrote and I was asking a question, not making a statement.
In fact, looking more closely, I see that I made sure to PRESENT it as a question that YOU, as TB fans would be better suited to answer than me...soooo...
What the heck are you talkin' about? What'd I say? What can I do for ya? Prospal, Brad, what?
I just asked why V4 slowed down and Ajax RE-PRESENTED what ALL of us were talking about after X-Mas: that playing so much, sooner or later, V4 was gonna crack. Only human. Playing the same minutes, Sundin would cracked sooner, absolutely. And that's it, case closed. What more do you want?
Oh, and notice how Leo refrains from putting labels on others' "perspectives", going so far as to calling them "screwed", for eg. That's like saying "you don't know hockey". Not nice.
We learned long ago that to ACCEPT one another would make Us strong.
We would leave the peasants to fight amongst themselves for scraps such as...say...oh, I dunno...
One Cup every 18 years.
Let's be nice. Let's be like what's-his-face the robot and "play safe". Why attack Leo? Leo's nice.
Plus, he's the best.
Anyway, that's what he told me.
P.

St. Pete Don, let me buy you a beer.
For most teams, and in this league most definitely means majority, they have to spend wisely. Signing 4 (B) players and giving up 2 (B+) players is a huge win for the organization. And one of those B+ players has been hammered on this blog for years. Regardless of the name attached to the monster contract, tiny Tampa Bay proved without question, you can't have 50% of your budget on 4 players. The important thing was to get some balance. Do we have it?? Time will tell, but without a doubt the "Star" experiment was a failure.
We are almost there!!!! The first puck being dropped and then we can all see where the chips fell. I see:
Better Forwards---way way better
Better overall depth
Better goalie---way way better
Same D---the huge question mark to me.
Will they play better for a different coach?? A different system?? (Torts had a system that was inflexable and to be nice, "unique") I am not sold on these 6 guys handling there own end. I hope to be surprized. I am concerned about so many new faces, some off season mending of bodies, how long it will take to gel into a team. And Melrose is a new coach, and we needed a new coach, but I seriously question his ability to jump in after soooooo long out of the game. He just doesn't strike me as a hard worker, and this team will take alot of hard work for the first couple months. Opening night will be awesome to say the least. Can not wait!!!!!

Leo, Here's some stats to back up my point about Richy and prospal being traded. V4 before the trades +3, V4 in the 20 games after Richy and prospal were traded -19. You figure it out. Marty;s numbers were similar before and after. They all gave up once they knew management had thrown in the towel. Pd, I have a real problem with your 2 dollars to 8 quarters attitude. While I liked both Boyle and Richards, on a last place team they were luxuries. Richy was a great centerman as long as you had bonafide scores on both wings to bury the puck. Boyle was a great PP qb and puck rushing d-man as long as you had a pronger type to cover for him on the countless odd man rushes the other way, which we didn't have. The trades of both of these players have improved the club both in the present and in the future. Malone scored 27 goals last year, Richy's career high was 25. Vrbata had 27 as well. How does that make them quarters and Brad a buck? You're perspective is scewed by the man crush you had on these two players.

Aj he grabbed the 5th spot on plus minus but its moot who cares. The guy was a stud last year at 37.

Steve,
That as an add-on but mostly the Finger still.
What's my point? Same one I have with Theo.
Not enough.
Despite what they did against shoe-makers in the iihl or whatever.
P.

Wasn't Joe Thorton number 6 in that article?, we all have our opinions, I have to serious believe their ain't a GM(or other writer) on the planet that in year 2008 would rather have Sundin over Thorton. Just me (probably everyone outside of the Toronto met area). Same with Sundin over Vinny, again just me.
and remember "offer" not offer(s).
Never could see why a 90,000 Mercedes was better than a 75,000 BMW, but that my friend is what makes the world go round. But many owners prefer to throw the money around for a "name" versus spending the money wisely (see Boston's management versus Yankee management, the last 3-4 years) Same analogy PD. You win. Again. I think a better honor would be captain of the NHL all-star team. Again that honor was given to Sundin more of his age than his playing ability at his age, but round and round we go. Oh yeah, Captain of NHL all-star team?? that was overrated Vinny. Oh yeah, MVP at the last World's?? same bum. Do you know Mats Sundin has never won any NHL Trophy or season scoring/goals/assist title. Crazy ain't it. Can anyone imagine Sundin playing 28 minutes on back to back nights at age 38 and killing penalties. Me Either.

PD,

It's going to be crowded for the Caps in the AHL. There are a bunch of youngsters from the last couple of drafts who need the ice time.

At 37 Rated top 5 centerman last year by your touted guy at TSN Ajax, captain of the GoldMedal Sweden team, sifting through 20 million dollar offers.
Actually plays defence, Imagine that Ajax.
Someone else can chase you around the goldfish bowel this time.
Tell us again how he isnt on the top 50 tradable contracts list there Ajax, a golden zinger for you..lol

Steve what is with Wash letting leafs scoop that boumedienne D guy? Likely for their marlie roster but he had 41 points in 52 games at Hershey which aint bad for a dman.

leo,

You talking about Boumedienne? So? It's a 2 way contract, he'll be in the minors. Your point?

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