Here's the letter Alan Gross sent to Lou Pearlman

Since there has been some interest in this, I thought I'd post this copy Alan Gross sent me of the letter he wrote to Lou Pearlman last December. He said he did not receive a response.

Update: Here also is a copy Alan provided me of a letter he sent to the Securities and Exchange Commission in 1995.

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Comments

Are there any investors who are willing to admit that although they were happy with their investments and the interest they were receiving that they had even an inkling or opinion that things may not have been completely legit? This is not to incite, I'm just wondering if any had that feeling, but didn't want to delve too deeply.I would imagine someone felt that way

[Kim]

Yeah Alan, don't feed the troll, he is totally ignorant and will continue to provoke you if you do. Been there, done that. He is the one that is a moron so don't let him get to you.

dont feed the troll, alan

Guess Again

[Alan Gross]

"I believe this is all self preservation on your part and I think it is about you. I have obviously touched a nerve, you don't have to agree. I call it the way I see it. If you need to continue name calling feel free but it did seem a bit beneath you."

You are entitled to your opinion but I wouldn't be surprised if you are one of the people who stole these people's life savings. Perhaps I am the one touching a nerve?

I believe this is all self preservation on your part and I think it is about you. I have obviously touched a nerve, you don't have to agree. I call it the way I see it. If you need to continue name calling feel free but it did seem a bit beneath you.

Typical Alec. (I certainly don't mean Defrawy, of course.)

Scorn and ridicule followed by empathy and apology.

"What I meant when I called you an idiot was misconstrued as an insult. I feel your pain for being so dense. Tell me some deep dark secrets that I can use against you, please. I'm sorry you overreacted to my vitriol."

I haven't been following the times he posts but he's known to be at his computer at all hours of the night.

While most of us are sleeping soundly, he plots his attacks, initiates a new lawsuit and starts a new internet "advertising" business. Multi-tasker that boy.

[Alan Gross]

"Alan, so you didn't pay the ultimate price, we had to. I am quite aware that you live in Queens and play with Airplanes."

Are you writing from "the other side" because that's what the ultimate price means? What do you know about me? Another idiot poster. Is your post meant to threaten me? It's not working. And I have nothing to do with airplanes. Another person who uses his/her head as a hat rack!

Alan, so you didn't pay the ultimate price, we had to. I am quite aware that you live in Queens and play with Airplanes.

Lou had a larger public forum that anyone could wish for. He had ample time to defend himself, but he fled the country and toured with a musical group while people were left to pick up pieces. Even after, he gave interviews to magazines, but instead of addressing the situation in any real way, he talked about his diet.He confessed and he's still lying.He's had his chances and ruined them and others in the process. As for supporting a friend. He doesn't know how to BE a friend, he proved himself, through his intentional deceptive and selfish criminal actions against those who supported him and invested in him,incapable and harmful.
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....taking shots at someone who doesn't have a public forum to defend himself."

what an absolutely ridiculous post.you don't get it and you're not smart enough to make a distinction between a criminal and someone who tried to do the right thing.It doesn't matter what emotions were involved,or even if Alan had a (rightful) grudge. He still did the right thing in the face of unethical behavior. Had more people done the same,this mess would not have gotten so complex and caused such havoc. Alan, don't waste your energy on posts like these.
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Posted by: | May 06, 2008 at 11:35 AM

[Alan Gross]

"Please upload the phone call."

The tape is still in the original analog format. It is long and there are references in the conversation that would have to be explained. What I am thinking of doing is eventually converting the tape to a digital format and load it into my computer and then make a power point presentation so that I could show documents, photos, etc. as we are speaking about them. For example, when Lou is asking me if I sent a letter to Wullenkemper, I could show both the letter, the reply, and other paperwork relating to that part of the conversation.

There is a lot more material in boxes that I haven't even gotten to yet and I feel bad that some of you feel that I might be holding back. Does it look like I am holding back? My airship archives and the Airship Enterprises/Airship International matrial has gotten mixed up over the years and I do not have time or energy at the moment to pull things apart. Please be patient.

[Alan Gross]

"Alan, What I want to know is could your have done more to expose Lou. Your actions are that of self preservation, keeping everything that related to Lou for many years. You send information received responses had conversations. Don't you know you knew."

I did as much as I could without paying the ultimate price. I shared this material with others. Also, the TV show Current Affair was investigating Lou based on my information but the program was cancelled during the investigative process. You bet it was self-preservation...just not for the reasons that you infer. In case you forgot how to read, I am still living in Queens and Lou had "people" around at that time. Before you post, why don't you use your head for something other than a hat rack?

5:34 cont. something?

Alan, What I want to know is could your have done more to expose Lou. Your actions are that of self preservation, keeping everything that related to Lou for many years. You send information received responses had conversations. Don't you know you knew.

Please upload the phone call.

[Alan Gross]

"I guess I'm trying to ascertain whether, deep down you think he's a good person?"

At one time I thought he could be and then I woke up and realized that he was evil incarnate. I would like to think that people can reform and if I am part of that process, than it is a blessing for me to make such an attempt. As long as he is in jail and being punished for his crimes, than that is the beginning of any reformation process. I won't hold my breath but it is just my nature to try and find that positive light inside of the darkness.

[Alan Gross]

"Maybe it is because he IS the sort of person you'd have to insulate yourself from?"

BINGO! I guess I saw the handwriting on the wall earlier than most.

[Alan Gross]

"Correction: Ms. Huntley said that you did not receive a response from Mr. Pearlman, not from the SEC. That was in an earlier blog posting."

I went back and tried to check the sequence of correspondences. The attorney that I was forced to hire wrote to the SEC on my behalf prior to the letter posted above. We were seeking a list of all of the Company's investors so that I could make them aware of my concerns. Pearlman found out and his attorney William Pringle sent the threatening letter to me and I responded by the 1995 letter. Since there seems to be some interest in this correspondence, I forwarded the 2 SEC responses to Helen with my full permission to have them added to this blog. I hope that this clears up confusion and adds to the intrigue...

4:10 - please refrain from discussing Lou Pearlman and using the words "good person" in the same post.

Once again, I see what you're saying and I apologize you took what I said as being malicious in my earlier post. I don't believe it was, and it certainly, in any respect wasn't meant to be.

I just don't understand why you would record the phone call of a friend? Maybe it is because he IS the sort of person you'd have to insulate yourself from?

In any regard, I do support you writing the letter to him. Do you think that he'll eventually come around?

I guess I'm trying to ascertain whether, deep down you think he's a good person?

Alan,

Please upload the phone call.

P.S. People will annoy anyone online who uses their real name. It happens all the time in virtually every forum.

[Alan Gross]

"People need the support of their friends, and I think you betrayed the confidence of someone you once called a good friend."

You need to understand that Pearlman betrayed me and my confidences decades ago. I have a phone conversation recorded in 1981 where you can plainly tell that Pearlman was trying to play me and I would have none of it. It was a half hour call and when I review it, I can see that even then I would not capitulate to his demands. He wanted me to stop my independent investigation of the Jordache blimp accident. The more I resisted his "charms" the angrier he got. At the end of the conversation, he told me he was going to call the FBI and tell them that I was a threat to his life.

Over time we reconciled but I remained wary. Our history goes back to early childhood and I saw Lou as the brother that I never had. I am angry with him and I want him to receive the maximum sentence because even now he does not indicate any remorse on what he has done and the lives that he has ruined. Because of the uniqueness of our relationship, I have expressed an interest in assisting with his reform, if that is even at all possible. The 7 phone conversations that took place last summer might be a sign that he is reaching out and wants to reform. Believe me, I am not going to hold my breath but if that type of support could make a positive difference, then I don't see any harm in trying. Please try to remember that disrespect and divisiveness aren't going to help things get better. I have done nothing but state the truth on this blog and yet I get crucified alongside of Lou Pearlman. What's up with that?

Correction: Ms. Huntley said that you did not receive a response from Mr. Pearlman, not from the SEC. That was in an earlier blog posting.

3:07 Stop now-you really sound like an idiot! Do you realize this? Was pearlman loyal to his GOOD friends?
I think loyalty goes out the window when your GOOD friend "ADMITS" to "STEALING" 300 million.

[the_worm06]

Alan,

Unless you have been attacked and libeled in the Internet by the likes of your former friend Pearlman and his cronies, what was said of you is mild. So just let it go and have Helen delete it if you convince her that it is false.

Pearlman and his cronies libeled the very people that outed his frauds by spamming on the Internet such false accusations as: Convicted felons, Convicted Child Molestors, criminals, Charged with RICO crimes by the U.S. Government, racial slurs etc etc.

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If you have any suggestions, please share. Thanks

NOT ALAN. 11:35-You seem to have some misplaced anger. Alan keep up the good work!

I wrote the earlier post that is in question, and I thought I would clarify my intent in doing so. It wasn't meant in any way to malign your character or, as you say, to take "delight in creating trouble." If you view it as such, I apologize and retract those questions.

If you're uncomfortable with the questions in their current form, I have no issue with the post being removed.

The questions weren't meant as an attack. I posed questions, and you clarified them. Part of the confusion came from previous posts where you said that your letter to the SEC went "ignored" and Ms. Huntley's blog posting stated that you "did not receive a response." You clarified that they did, indeed, respond (albeit with a form letter).

The same thing concerns Mr. Vasquez. You said you approached him about starting a business in Florida. I had heard that he had no interest in leaving TransCon because he was faithful to Mr. Pearlman. I was only asking if that wasn't true?

I never said you were fired, I had heard that was true, and asked you if it wasn't true?

I never accused you of anything other than taking shots at someone who can't defend themselves publicly, and I stand by that. You hasve said many harsh things, as many people here on the blog have, and I think a true friend would support their friend through rough times. People need the support of their friends, and I think you betrayed the confidence of someone you once called a good friend.

I didn't pose anonymously because I'm out to create trouble, but I'm taking a view that is very unpopular in a very heated debate. I only wanted my questions answered and my views expressed. You answered those questions, and I apologize again if you find my opinions overly critical. That wasn't my intention.

[Alan Gross]

"Alan,

You should think twice before you begin with your legal threats again."

I said consider. Having said that, I refuse to allow anyone to speak about me in such a way. The whole post was totally absurd and without merit. There are rules posted on the left side of the page regarding posting libelous and false information. I'm just sayin'... If you have any suggestions, please share. Thanks.

Question 1, Have you ever heard of Dun and Bradstreet, let me educate you fool. They are a public and seperate entity that rates the credit of a company. Ever herd of Fiserv or do I have to educate you on that as well.

"I am accepting full responsibility," he told U.S. District Judge G. Kendall Sharp, who set sentencing for May 21. However, Pearlman did not apologize or show any sign of remorse.

Lou Pearlman is scheduled to be sentenced May 21. Victims who would like to explain the impact his crimes had on their lives can do so by writing John Mason, supervisor, U.S. Probation Office, Suite 1400, U.S. Courthouse, 401 West Central Blvd., Orlando, FL 32801-0140. The probation office will prepare a report for U.S. District Judge G. Kendall Sharp to consider in Pearlman's sentencing.

In Pearlman's own words:

Lou Pearlman: I stole $300-million
Lou Pearlman stood up in an Orlando courtroom and admitted he stole more than $300-million from banks and investors. "I am accepting full responsibility," he told the judge on Thursday,

I'm sure Pearlman would like the focus off him and on others.

I have surveyed all surroundings and heard all the scuttlebutt (and the scuttlebutt from canada is all but a silly man's fantasy) and have come to the sincere conclusion that all of the investors were idiots. plain and simple

1 QUESTION:
Does your statement also include the banks?

[the_worm06]

Alan,

You should think twice before you begin with your legal threats again. Helen can't turn over confidential information on posters without a proper subpoena.

So:

1. Hire an attorney.

2. File a complaint in the proper jurisdiction.

3. Issue a subpoena to the owner of this website.

4. Have your attorney spend plenty of time to draft the response to a Motion to Quash in court.

5. If you get lucky to get the Motion to Quash denied, then maybe the website owner MIGHT turn over the IP numbers.

6. If not, then go back to court to get a court order for the information to be turned over.

7. After $200,000 in legal fees, you will probably have the IP number of the poster - which might not help you since the poster probably used an anonymizer.

good luck

regars,

the_worm06

[Dr. Evil]

I have surveyed all surroundings and heard all the scuttlebutt (and the scuttlebutt from canada is all but a silly man's fantasy) and have come to the sincere conclusion that all of the investors were idiots. plain and simple.

Actually, the question should be:

did pearlman use frankie to carry out his scams and did pearlman use frankie to launer the cash generated from the scams?

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People should concentrate their efforts on Pearlman not Frankie. People lost money because of Pearlman, not Frankie. Pearlman was the originator of this scam, not Frankie. What is wrong with everyone! Pearlman was the devious one. Money was paid to Pearlman. Pearlman spent it. Pearlman has hid it. Didn't Pearlman borrow over $200 million from banks in the past few years? Does anyone actually believe he has spent it all?

[Alan Gross]

"Alan, isn't it true that you're just a disgruntled former employee of Mr. Pearlman's who was let go for being constantly absent from work? Isn't it true that you were given several written warnings before being terminated?

Alan, as far as your story about Mr. Vasquez Frankie seeming interested in your Orlando blimp business, isn't it true that Frankie was tired of the blimp business and would have never gotten involved? Frankie was Mr. Pearlman's employee -- not yours. Can you give one shred of evidence that he wasn't happy working with Mr. Pearlman and that he would have ever left TransCon to work for you? Of course you can't because it's absolutely not true.

You blame and blame and blame. If you were a real friend, wouldn't you have not shared your personal letters with Ms. Huntley? If you had really sent letter to the SEC, wouldn't they have responded? Isn't it true that you're only out for the attention that this affords you?

You blame your ex-wife for your failed marriage. You blame Lou for your own failures. Finally, you blame bloggers on this site who dare question your integrity.

I'd like to know if you can honestly state that you were not given warning after warning regarding your performance as an employee of Mr. Pearlman before being fired?

You're so addicted to the limelight it's pathetic. Do something constructive with your life instead of taking shots at someone who doesn't have a public forum to defend himself."

This is the most absurd post ever written about Pearlman and me. What kind of an idiot are you? Did you actually read the articles about the childhood that we shared? This attack is unwarranted and totally untrue. I resigned from my job with the blimp crew for a variety of reasons. When you work on a blimp crew, you CAN'T BE ABSENT. I was the crew administrator and handled a lot of financial and administrative work. There were time when I traveled to a bank in another city or had to stay behind because I was fortunate to travel with my personal vehicle.

Actually, I was on vacation and was supposed to join up with the blimp crew in NYC when I returned but they left early and I decided to stay in NYC. Why don't you show me and anyone else a warning letter? Because none exist!!! Frankie, Lou and I grew up together in the same apartment building. The original interest in blimps stemmed from the temporary Goodyear blimp base at Flushing Airport.

I don't know who you are because you are a cowardly anonymous poster who takes delight in creating trouble and making people feel worse than they already do. You are so absurd making a statement that Frankie was my employee? When did I ever say that? Just before his passing, I spoke with Frankie about a potential business opportunity involving airships but it would have been a partnership and not an employer/employee situation.

Helen Huntley has much more information than she was able to use. She visited me in my apartment and had access to EVERYTHING!!! If she thought that I was a fraud, I would have been exposed a long time ago. I have a reply from the SEC but it was a form letter acknowledging my correspondence. This is not the appropriate forum to present all of the photos, videos, documents, etc. but those privy to see my archival material have no doubt that I am the real deal.

I offer explanations and you see them as blame. Did you expect me to stay married to a woman who was stealing from everyone that she encountered, including her parents and place of employment? Should I have stayed with Lou and facilitated his life of crime? What business is it of yours to spread lies and distortions about me? This is pure libel and slander.

Helen, if you could provide me with the name of this poster, I would consider a legal action. These are the rules regarding posting on this newspaper site:
Please be sure your comments are appropriate before submitting them. Inappropriate comments include content that
*Is libelous
*Is abusive, harassing, or threatening
*Is known to be inaccurate or contains a false attribution

As far as my attending the sentencing, it is none of your business what I have to say and how I will say it. I requested permission to speak through appropriate channels. I am waiting for a response.

Isn't it more prudent to focus our attention to Lou Pearlman and not Alan Gross or Frankie. Why are we attacking the messenger? Alan has come forth with a wealth of information that no one else knows about Pearlman. Alan could have remained silent, but instead is trying to help the the investors and has said he is going to urge a mximum sentence for Pearlman.

Alan, why would you speak at sentencing. Did he steal all your money.

Alan, isn't it true that you're just a disgruntled former employee of Mr. Pearlman's who was let go for being constantly absent from work? Isn't it true that you were given several written warnings before being terminated?

Alan, as far as your story about Mr. Vasquez Frankie seeming interested in your Orlando blimp business, isn't it true that Frankie was tired of the blimp business and would have never gotten involved? Frankie was Mr. Pearlman's employee -- not yours. Can you give one shred of evidence that he wasn't happy working with Mr. Pearlman and that he would have ever left TransCon to work for you? Of course you can't because it's absolutely not true.

You blame and blame and blame. If you were a real friend, wouldn't you have not shared your personal letters with Ms. Huntley? If you had really sent letter to the SEC, wouldn't they have responded? Isn't it true that you're only out for the attention that this affords you?

You blame your ex-wife for your failed marriage. You blame Lou for your own failures. Finally, you blame bloggers on this site who dare question your integrity.

I'd like to know if you can honestly state that you were not given warning after warning regarding your performance as an employee of Mr. Pearlman before being fired?

You're so addicted to the limelight it's pathetic. Do something constructive with your life instead of taking shots at someone who doesn't have a public forum to defend himself.

Thank you for taking the time to tell us your story. I am sorry that you have had to suffer so.

Lou was an outcast from his family, an only child who had insecurity issues, and lived in the shadows of his famous cousin.

He is a very, very smart guy...but a criminal mastermind. No one could ever pin him down on his lies, because he always had a 2nd, 3rd or 4th way out.

He started as a swindler with his bogus pump and dump blimp company, which took the attention of the "private" TransCon. Never any real planes, never any real financials...just smoke and mirrors, which he concocted to bilk family out of their money and build his ponzi scheme...all while hiding behind the "legitamacy" of the publicly traded blimp company.

He was actually smart enough and devious enough, and LUCKY enough to strike it big in the boy-band biz...but his true criminal genious kept him pushing the envelope and screwing that empire up as well.

Without the bands and the blimps...it was harder and harder to distract attention from the ever-growing ponzi scheme which had broadened out to many, many unsuspecting strangers. The music/entertainment empire was crumbling and needed the ponzi scheme to keep it afloat, and the ponzi scheme needed the music/entertainment empire as a distraction and appearance of legitamacy! Both came crashing down, and this diabolically smart criminal could keep his scam going no more!

[Alan Gross]

"Are you going to be at the sentencing?"

I sent letters to John Mason at the Probation Office and David Saice at the Sentencing Office asking for the opportunity to speak at the sentencing. I am waiting for their replies. I would like to be there in any case.

People should concentrate their efforts on Pearlman not Frankie. People lost money because of Pearlman, not Frankie. Pearlman was the originator of this scam, not Frankie. What is wrong with everyone! Pearlman was the devious one. Money was paid to Pearlman. Pearlman spent it. Pearlman has hid it. Didn't Pearlman borrow over $200 million from banks in the past few years? Does anyone actually believe he has spent it all?

[jeff]

Last post was by me, I forgot to sign it.

Kim,

You will obviously believe what you want, but answer these two questions.

1. If Alan saw through Lou’s BS so quickly how could Frankie work with him daily, attend parties, go to dinners, and not know that Lou was lying?
2. How could Frankie have seen Lou’s book and not known it was all BS?

Face it Kim, just because he loved his mother and family does not mean Frankie is not a crook.

And your theory that I am slandering Frankie to defend Lou is total crap. Saying the Frankie knew what was going on and went along with it for his own benefit in no way absolves Lou of his crimes.

And many people have posted similar information about Frankie. You simply cal each poster Alec and say it is not true.

To Alan

I am sorry that I caused you pain. It was not my intent, I only said what I said because you sound like such a warm, honest, and strong person. It is a shame you were not able to guide Lou, but you bear no responsibility.

Are you going to be at the sentencing?

The basic question is:

Why did Pearlman outright lie and steal money from his family and friends?

Kim you are so full of it. I believe it was you who said that you would start a fund to help the victims, correct.
Frankie has had his final discussion with you which you can't discuss. Please, I wouldn't believe a word out of your mouth.

[wayne]

to kim:
thanks for your response and sorry for any confusion i may generated on this end.
wayne

Was Lou thrown out of The Bayclub in Bayside, NY years ago when he lived there?

With all the boys coming and going...

Kim you love Big Pop

That was con-Air. No Joke.

No one mentions that Pearlman was investigated for allegedly forging the signature of a deceased investor, Mr. Chow, who had invested millions of dollars in Pearlman's company. The family wanted the investment withdrawn and returned to them.

Remember when Pearlman said his company provided the planes for the movie Wall Street, and Trans Con received a credit at the end of the movie?

[Kim]

Wayne, I made a post yesterday that for some reason did not go through but I wanted to let you know I was not lashing out at you. I'm just angry at the fact that I called this a long time ago, everyone wants to blame a man who is not here to defend himself. So much betrayel and Alec, Jeff or whoever are only trying to do what they do best and that is try to push the blame on Frankie and get it off of Lou when the fact is his death should be re-investigated.

[Kim]

I have never, nor, will I ever believe any of the garbage that people have posted about Frankie. He was a good man with a good heart, that loved his mother, children and all things special to him. Bottom line is we lost a good person who may or may not have been hard to work with or for. In his personal life, that side was never seen by myself. The only time I seen him angry was in the end when he had his confrontation with Lou and the conversation I had with him will remain between us.

[Alan Gross]

"Alan -

Lou may have had a large family, but he was never really integrated into it....he was very much an outsider (by his own choice). He took advantage of many of us in the family, who believed that a blood relative must be good and trustworthy. Alot of pain continues to be felt."

I learn something new on the blog all of the time. I remember that my parents left me with Reenie, Hy, and Louis on many occasions instead of using a babysitter. I even attended a few family circles. As I got older, I met many cousins and even went on trips with them. I often wondered how they really felt about their rich cousin. It seems like now I know.

When Lou's malfeasance was discovered, I was contacted by several of these relatives. We commiserated and I emailed photos of them from my archives so that we could remember the better days. I am hoping that I was able to give some comfort with kind words and memories, as well as a sympathetic ear.

However,

Nothing Jeff said or did not say changes the possibility that Frankie very well knew of Lou's frauds.

Kim,

Yes, it appears so. All you have to do is look at his past. He accuses Frankie of doing things that HE did in the past.

there are no other sources that have confirmed Jeff's stories about Frankie.

classic

I am sorry that for a moment you and Allan might have thought that Jeff's comments were somewhat true.

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It wouldn't shock me if Jeff is really Alec. That would explain everything. He is the coward.

[let me see here]

lou ran a ponzi scheme for how long? the man was a genius, and evil one, but a genius to be able to pull that off for so long. it must be a world record. and the billions he generated. still don't get it. do you?

[Kim]

It wouldn't shock me if Jeff is really Alec. That would explain everything. He is the coward.

[family member]

Alan -

Lou may have had a large family, but he was never really integrated into it....he was very much an outsider (by his own choice). He took advantage of many of us in the family, who believed that a blood relative must be good and trustworthy. Alot of pain continues to be felt.

Allan and Kim,

It has come to my attention that the info about Frankie being written by "Jeff" might not be true.

There are no other sources that have confirmed Jeff's comments about Frankie.

It also appears that Jeff might very well be Alex Defrawy. This would explain all the comments about Frankie.

frankie received exactly what he had coming! It's called "KARMA". He just decided to hasten the plan. How can anyone who knew him think otherwise? He was a bully, and in the end, he did what all bullies do when faced with owning up to their actions. They take the coward way out!

To Lou's relative, did he steal your money and did you have any idea he was capable of this?

[Alan Gross]

"i'm a relative of Lou's...what do you want to know?"

Are you all right? Do we know each other? The one thing that I was always jealous of when we were growing up together is the fact the Lou had a large family and mine was small.

i'm a relative of Lou's...what do you want to know?

[Alan Gross]

"Alan, have you tried to contact cousin Art about his SOB cousin? Has anyone out there tried to contact the SOB's other cousins that were scammed?"

I have reached out and/or contacted some close friends and relatives and they are suffering along with everyone else. These are personal and private contacts.

Was Lou thrown out of The Bayclub in Bayside, NY years ago when he lived there?

Alan, have you tried to contact cousin Art about his SOB cousin? Has anyone out there tried to contact the SOB's other cousins that were scammed?

does anybody think Scott Bennett knew that the EISA scam was a Ponzi scheme?

Just to add a little info Scott Bennett is the one who brought Greg Mcdonald into the Trans Con Company. S. Bennett would always try to bring in people to bad they always turn out to be scumb, just like Scott. Scott Bennett was out for himself then and is now.

Alan,

While I don't believe that Frankie was oblivious to the underhanded nature of his associates, I don't think you should shed any tears based on the word of "jeff".

If you could look down the internet tube to see who he really is, I'd wager money that you'd find a man of many aliases, one of them Jeff Defrawy.

It's almost like he is telling of his own misadventures, while affixing the blame for his deviant sexual behavior on Frank.

After all, Alec had Dave Elliot pay off an abused employee and was noted for his closed door staff evaluations.

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they were birds of a feather, flocking up the world together.

Let the assistant speak, if indeed he even had one. But let's hope he's not quite so illiterate as the team of jeff/alec.

[jeff]

I 100% disagree with the characterization of Alan. He was defending Frankie based on what he knew personally. When new information was posted he acknowledged that Frankie may have changed.

I think everyone (Frankie included) has good and bad. I saw a very ugly part of Frankie. Alan saw a totally different side.

To add more prospective when I first met Frankie he was civil but wary of anyone getting close to Lou. When I called Lou out on his BS and didn’t go along with his plans Frankie personally hated me. Even though Lou and I parted on bad terms he was always polite and friendly (most people who know Lou know he hates any type of confrontation) but Frankie visibly showed his hatred.

His animosity towards me never bothered me and in a strange way I respected his candor about his feelings. What really made me dislike Frankie was his tendency to pick on the weak. He sucked up to Lou and senior managers but he mistreated low level employees and young women. He showed classic signs of being a bully, even in the end where he proved himself a coward.

Alan, you need to understand that when Frankie died the state had already been investigating the program for almost a year. Everyone was running like rats (Tolner, McDonald, etc) and I suspect Frankie knew what was coming. He was going to be arrested, humiliated, and jailed. Despite speculation on this blog there has been no credible evidence of anything other than suicide.

Also Lou had no reason to have Frankie killed. The evidence against Lou is direct. He personally signed documents and talked to investors. No testimony was needed to put him away once the scam unraveled.

[jeff]

I am reachable by email. I contacted Special Agent Skinner when this first broke and offered my assistance. We then had several phone calls and a face to face meeting. I don’t think I was able to give him direct evidence of the scam as I was not aware of it until Helen reported it, but I do think I gave him some names to look at.

I do not want to post my real identity or email on this blog because it seems people just like attacking anyone posting here, but if anyone wants to speak with me directly they can post their email and I will contact them directly.

Jeff,

Are you reachable by email?

Or any other type of communication?

There are some people that might want to have a chat with you regarding your knowledge of some of Pearlman's lieutenants.

thanks

Alan,

But is it not true that you have been attacking anyone and anything during the last week on this blog that even mentions that it is possible Frankie might have known about Lou's frauds.

You are pathetic

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from you:

If what you say is true, than I am mortified at such behavior. I can only offer the explanation that the pressure of working for Pearlman overwhelmed him. He was not a bully decades ago. I truly feel sorry that you had such an unpleasant experience and I am shocked to hear it. It now appears that Louis Pearlman did more than just steal money. He stole people's souls!

Jeff, your 7:09 am comments about Frankie, if true, would point to a Frankie that fully knew about Lou Pearlman's frauds all along and, by allowing his name to be used as an officer/director of many of the scam companies, was assisting Lou in these scams

Alan, I would hope now that you would realize that there was just so much you could do in the face of all the other opposing forces and money that backed him up.So, you can put those thoughts behind you.There is no true justice that will prevail. People have lost too much. However,much of the truth is out, he is behind bars and you have gotten to say your piece.So maybe you shall have "peace." For your willingness to share your history and thoughts openly and to even have an open mind toward the truth after these posts about Frankie shows that you do have integrity. It might now be the time to reserve and withhold the rest of your memories, rather than share any more on this blog. Perhaps there will be interest in your writing a book based on your experiences and that might be the way for you to help even more, for yourself and others.
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There is not a day that goes by that I don't mentally beat myself up for not being even more proactive years ago. Once Lou got a taste for fame and fortune, there was no stopping him.

[Alan Gross]

"Alan, did Lou attend your wedding?"

Yes.

What was his gift?

Still waiting!

Alan, did Lou attend your wedding?

[Alan Gross]

"Lou called Rae "mom" "

I also did not know about Lou's half-sister in the Netherlands.

[Alan Gross]

Jeff,

My encounters with Scott and Robert were minimal and I did not really join everyone on the social scene. I was kept on the fringe (for what are now obvious reasons) and so I cannot speak about these people. Actually, it was Frankie that always kept me in the loop and invited me on some of the trips in the early 90's to celebrate my birthday.

I did not know the other players at all and I find your postings quite revealing. I agree that Lou was not the sharpest knife in the drawer and could not have pulled this off by himself. However, Pearlman should have known right from wrong but moral principles were not part of his business plan.

I have to admit that the temptations Pearlman offered were quite appealing but I also knew that he had issues keeping his word. He tried to use my ex-wife to lure me in but my desire to stick to my convictions eventually won out. When I think back, perhaps I owe Pearlman one as my divorce turned out to be a blessing.

The reason why I bring this up is that Pearlman was a great salesman and charmer. Once I opened my eyes to the fact that I was being used and abused, I started to see things more realistically. The more we argued, the more he put me in the background. I was not going to be outdone. As an archivist, I saved everything knowing that it might be useful one day.

Lou called Rae "mom"

[jeff]

Alan,

It is bizarre to talk to someone who new these people in an ealier life. Amazing to see how time changes people. If you don’t mind I’d like to share my opinions on some of them and see how it matches up against your recollection.

Scot Bennett always seemed like a nice sharp bright guy to me. I always trusted him and felt he was being honest. I only met him 5 or 6 times but always walked away with a good feeling.

Lou seemed not that bright. When I worked with him he seemed like he could never concentrate and his ideas seemed childish and simple. It amazed me that he had reached the level of success he did. Obviously he had a lot on his mind that I didn’t know about with his ponzi scheme about to collapse but I wonder if he was like that before.

Robert Fichetti in the couple of times I met him seemed totally clueless. I once asked Greg McDonald what he did and Greg said he was the DP. Then he explained the DP was the “Designated Prisoner”. He went on to explain that Lou kept him around to sign everything and if the ship went down Robert would be the fall guy. That conversation scared the hell out of me and made me run from the whole group even though Greg was trying to be funny.

Greg McDonald always seemed to be the “Evil Genius” behind the whole organization. He was incredible smart and everyone (Frankie included) was terrified of him. Even Lou never disagreed with Greg. I always felt that Lou was simply a front man (the dancing bear) for Greg.

I never met or don’t remember Mike Crudele

You already know my opinion of Frankie, but I was wondering what your take of these people was.

[Alan Gross]

"Alan, did you know Rae from Manhattan and Florida?"

No.

Alan, did you know Rae from Manhattan and Florida?

[Alan Gross]

"Frankies behavior change allegedly anger and hostility, suicide timing, suicide death. What do you attribute it to? Sounds like someone was on the edge and went over."

Frankie was apparently in over his head and there is obviously more to the story than meets the eye. However, I am still debating in my head whether it was a suicide or something else. As I have recently demonstrated, I am trying to keep an open mind but I am still not convinced that it was a suicide. The most honest response that I can offer is confusion.

[Alan Gross]

"I wish you had stayed with Pearlman. I believe you may have kept him on the proper path. I wish you the best."

Jeff,
I cried after reading your post and my keyboard is still covered in tears. There is not a day that goes by that I don't mentally beat myself up for not being even more proactive years ago. Once Lou got a taste for fame and fortune, there was no stopping him.

I experienced a great sense of relief after Helen posted the correspondences. I have been holding a grudge for years because Lou did not just harm me financially, he kept me from a successful career in the lighter-than-air industry. My association with Lou tainted me.

The Pearlman story in so convoluted and complex that it is hard to fathom what a trial would have been like. How much more would we have learned? Your missive about Frankie was an eye opener and will no doubt disturb me forever. Once again, I am so sorry that you had such an experience and I thank you for sharing it publicly. I am sure that it was not easy for you to post.

Frankies behavior change allegedly anger and hostility, suicide timing, suicide death. What do you attribute it to? Sounds like someone was on the edge and went over.

[Alan Gross]

"Alan -

Do you know Alan Seigal, Seth, Frank, Scott Bennett, Pierre?? what's your view on this crew from Queens that were with Lou for over a decade?"

I knew them and worked with them while I was the blimp crew's administrator. I handled paperwork and financial matters while we were traveling and doing maintenance at the Lakehurst hangar. When I left the crew, the Company was still based in New York City and I visited the offices occasionally, especially to grab blimp info and souvenirs.

I liked these gentlemen but I feel like I did not fit in. I am a simple person so the appeal of great wealth, fame, and fortune did not interest me. Lou made promises to these staff members that I knew would not come true. When he moved the Company's operations to Florida and took them with him, I did not get a good feeling.

There are many good people who worked for Lou that, in my opinion, got caught up in the glitz and glamor and were blinded to the financial mismanagement going on behind the scenes.

Personally, my goal is to see what, if anything, can be done to bring aid to those people who were devastated by this whole affair. In some ways, everyone who worked for Pearlman was a facilitator whether they knew it or not. My past history seems to interest people as it is a different perspective to Lou Pearlman's story. Perhaps it can be useful in ways that I have yet to explore.

[jeff]

Thank you for your words Alan. Your integrity and compassion for everyone amaze me (and I beleive many on this site who have become jaded).

I wish you had stayed with Pearlman. I believe you may have kept him on the proper path. I wish you the best.

[Alan Gross]

Jeff,

Apparently the Frankie Vazquez that you describe is not the person that I knew. I spent 3 1/2 years working with Frankie on a blimp crew and we spent a lot of time together. I never saw Frankie exhibit such behavior. Actually, he was one of the most popular crew members.

I do not know when and where the changes that you describe could have come but this is most disturbing to me. Over the past few years I saw Frankie during the Holidays and during other brief visits to NYC. However, the only time I visited Orlando in recent years was during Pearlman's 50th birthday party weekend and I did not notice any changes in Frankie.

If what you say is true, than I am mortified at such behavior. I can only offer the explanation that the pressure of working for Pearlman overwhelmed him. He was not a bully decades ago. I truly feel sorry that you had such an unpleasant experience and I am shocked to hear it. It now appears that Louis Pearlman did more than just steal money. He stole people's souls!

Alan -

Do you know Alan Seigal, Seth, Frank, Scott Bennett, Pierre?? what's your view on this crew from Queens that were with Lou for over a decade?

[jeff]

Alan, you say that we are judge and executioner when you have no answer after you have spent twenty years judging Lou. You also say that you have not spent much time with Frankie, let me tell you the kind of person your “friend” became.

Frankie would make his loyal assistant of two year keep his cell phone on for 24 hours a day. When his assistant turned his phone of for two hours to do some shopping on Christmas eve Frankie had his service cut of for the holidays and physically beat him and punched him in the face screaming feep you f**cking phone on you piece of sh*t.

Frankie also knocked the assistant down and stepped on his neck in the middle of Pearls when the assistant did not keep Frankie’s table reserved.

I do not want to write the assistant’s name because he is entitled to privacy, but if you attended Frankie’s funeral you will remember how when this assistant walked in their was a hush and everyone gasped and stared.

Frankie had the entire company wired by camera except his office because he would take new female employees to his office and didn’t want the guards seeing what was happening

Frankie was accused of r*pe by a women in Ohio. It was on the wrestling tour and Lou settled it out of court and the girl dropped the charges.

On one occasion while on a first date with a female TCT employee who was 19 (Frankie was about 40 at the time) Frankie began sucking her fingers and grabbing her neck. She was so terrified she called a girlfriend and asked her to come rescue her.

Non of tis is conjecture, these are all facts. Maybe some people saw another side of Frankie (Many people claim some serial killers are actually very nice to some people) but those of us who worked with him saw a Bully and a Coward. I feel very bad for Frankie’s parents, but I honestly could not feel sad to see him dead. The last words Frankie sad to me was “If I see you alone I’m going to kick you’re a**. This was for simply questioning Lou;’s business ethics. I left Lou’s companies a few days later and haven’t seen Frankie since but every word on this blog is 100% true.

Alan, how in the world can you possibly say this when you have just spent one week and dozens of posted messages defending Frankie's involvement and knowledge of Lou's frauds?

geesh...get a grip guy

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The relationship that Frankie and Lou had always disturbed me but Frankie's devout loyalty could not be overcome. Yes, Frankie worked for Lou and his name was attached to many of Lou's shell companies. I cannot defend Frankie's involvement with Pearlman and I really never understood it.

Jeff, fully agree on your comments below:

"To Alan

It is kind of you to try to defend Frankie, but just use common sense. You worked briefly with Lou and you almost immediately realized how full of BS he was.

For someone that worked day to day with Lou for two decades and not know that we was a liar and a con artist is just impossible. Frankie saw Lou lie and cheat people. He saw Lou spin yarns to investors and everyone he dealt with. Unless he was the dumbest human on earth he would have known Lou was not legit.

Frankie may have turned a blind eye and believed Lou was just to bog and famous to go down, but please don’t insult everyone by implying that he would have no idea what was going on. If you keep defending Lou you will have about as much credibility as Kim.

Posted by: Jeff | May 03, 2008 at 07:58 PM "

Kim, let me ask you something.

do you think that Frankie had just one company that he was an officer/director of and incorporated in Florida?

just one?

If so, then I would imagine he, at least once, looked this company up in the Florida corporate website.

Are you telling us that when he did this he failed to see that their were another 20 companies registered to his name where he was a director/officer and registered agent?

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Again, obviously common sense seems to have passed you up. Just because his name was on those documents means absolutely nothing. For crying out loud, learn to read or learn to listen, did the dead man know his name was being used for fake financials? I some how doubt that. So, as far as Frankie is concerned, mark my words, he was quite pissed when he learned of this scam, hence, the big blow up with Pearlman, 24 hours prior to his death. You figure it out if you can!

Posted by: Kim | May 03, 2008 at 04:00 PM

Why would he commit suicide if he knew nothing. What would be his reasoning? I am asking not pointing any fingers, there has been to much of that.

What's going on with Bob Fishchetti and Alan Segal?

[Alan Gross]

"This isn't a court of law. It's a blog where people are voicing their opinions. Were we going to think that Lou was innocent until the point of his confession or trial?"

Pearlman's guilt was never in question. I find that the obsessive questioning about Frank Vazquez's involvement is futile and hurtful to many reading these postings. Frankie was not a financial officer and I personally do not know what Frankie knew or when he knew it. Many of you feel that he played an integral role and I am of the opinion that he was used and abused.

Over the last few years, I was not as close to my friend because he lived so far away. It was impossible to have an uninterupted conversation with him over the phone. When I visited with Frankie in 2004, I got the impression that his role in the Company was down-sized and that he became a glorified security guard supervisor and Church Street Station property manager. From what I witnessed, he was hardly in the position to commit financial chicanery.

As the story unfolds, I might find that I have been wrong about my dear departed friend. However, he is not here to defend himself or explain his role in the Ponzi scheme. But does it really matter at this point? I fear that disrespectful and mean spirited comments on this blog might keep well meaning people from coming forward with useful information or the capability of making a positive difference for the victims.

You did no such thing thinking Lou and everyone else was guilty.

Yes this Public virtual Venue and some people believe what they read.

It's unlikely that many of the people involved in this scheme, who have something to hide, would even tell their friends and family, parents or children about it unless they were forced to.

This isn't a court of law. It's a blog where people are voicing their opinions. Were we going to think that Lou was innocent until the point of his confession or trial?
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Boy, I am so naive. I used to think that a person was innocent until proven guilty. What do I know? Allegations are the new rule of law.

Almost every day people have expressed their frustration that many people are currently walking around spending their ill-gotten gains.That some of them feel that Frankie may have also played a part of it, as other of Lou's close associates is a very reasonable thought. They are not emotionally involved with his family and were not with him. Just as it is understandable that you would prefer to believe that he was unaware, especially since that is not likely something he would admit to you, it is understandable that people feel otherwise.

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Boy, I am so naive. I used to think that a person was innocent until proven guilty. What do I know? Allegations are the new rule of law. Of course, no one seems to be disturbed by the fact that many people are currently walking around spending their ill-gotten gains from Pearlman's criminal activities. But since it seems that Frankie is guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt, let's hang him from the highest tree. Oops. Too late. he's already dead!

Posted by: Alan Gross | May 03, 2008 at 09:52 PM

Don't you know this is the public judge, jury and executioner; all that matters is selling papers. Maybe he killed himself because he could not live in a cell. Who knows?

[Alan Gross]

"People that worked with Frankie say he was a bully. Many women have alleged that he was an abuser. What we know is he was a criminal and a coward."

Boy, I am so naive. I used to think that a person was innocent until proven guilty. What do I know? Allegations are the new rule of law. Of course, no one seems to be disturbed by the fact that many people are currently walking around spending their ill-gotten gains from Pearlman's criminal activities. But since it seems that Frankie is guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt, let's hang him from the highest tree. Oops. Too late. he's already dead!

[Jeff]

Alan

Keep in mind that Frankie obviously read Lou’s book. As you stated anyone who knew Lou would have known that the book was full of lies.

Frankie kept his mouth shut and continued to go along because he was getting paid. When the well ran dry he fought with Lou then took the cowards way out. I understand how it is terrible for a family to lose a son, but Frankie could have saved hundreds of people their life saving. If Frankie had your integrity and guts he would have blown the whistle on Lou and many people would have been spared needless suffering.

People that worked with Frankie say he was a bully. Many women have alleged that he was an abuser. What we know is he was a criminal and a coward.

[Alan Gross]

"Frankie may have turned a blind eye and believed Lou was just to bog and famous to go down, but please don’t insult everyone by implying that he would have no idea what was going on. If you keep defending Lou you will have about as much credibility as Kim."

Jeff,

This is very difficult for me. I have been reading the blog entries, both positive and negative. I guess one of the most disturbing thoughts that continuosly runs through my mind is that Frankie, knowing how I felt about Lou's business ethics, didn't clue me in that something was amiss. Perhaps he was trying to protect me?

I did see Frankie here in NYC days before he met his demise and I knew that there were problems between Lou and him. It was more important to me to try to offer Frankie an opportunity that would have separated him from that whole scene. I wish I knew then what I know know.

The relationship that Frankie and Lou had always disturbed me but Frankie's devout loyalty could not be overcome. Yes, Frankie worked for Lou and his name was attached to many of Lou's shell companies. I cannot defend Frankie's involvement with Pearlman and I really never understood it.

I am trying not to violate certain confidences in responding to your inquiries about Frankie. His family has suffered financially and emotionally, and are continuing to suffer, throughout this whole ordeal. Frankie may not have been an angel in all of this but I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt that had he lived, he would have done the right thing and helped the authorities no matter what his role was. Unfortunately, we may never really know what his part in this was.

The question that everyone should be asking is why his death was not more thoroughly investigated. Frankie was a facilitator but I can only hope that his involvement was minimal, if at all. Please remember that while Pearlman's victims suffered great financial losses, the Vazquez family lost a son.

[Jeff]

To Alan

It is kind of you to try to defend Frankie, but just use common sense. You worked briefly with Lou and you almost immediately realized how full of BS he was.

For someone that worked day to day with Lou for two decades and not know that we was a liar and a con artist is just impossible. Frankie saw Lou lie and cheat people. He saw Lou spin yarns to investors and everyone he dealt with. Unless he was the dumbest human on earth he would have known Lou was not legit.

Frankie may have turned a blind eye and believed Lou was just to bog and famous to go down, but please don’t insult everyone by implying that he would have no idea what was going on. If you keep defending Lou you will have about as much credibility as Kim.

[Jeff]

Frankie was not pissed of to find out it was a scam, he was pissed of to find out that there was no money left.

[wayne]

to kim:
i do indeed hope that you were not lashing out at my last blog entry. i never meant to offend, criticize, or slam frankie here (quote: i'm not defending or DEFAMING....), even when there are entries here seeming to want nothing more than defame his memory, you, and others. people here are going to have varying opinions. that is why i left it open. unlike you and alan, i never had the opportunity to meet frankie. most of what i have heard from people that did know and work with him would tend to paint a picture of a fairly "cool dude", who was a blast to work with, as long as you didn't get on his bad side. most people are like that, aren't they? however, not all felt that way, as some, one or two, entries here early on were in the negative, when it dealt with his business and personal demeanors.
listen kim, if i offended you, i'm sorry. i realize that you truly admired him. as stated, i didn't know the man. i had never even heard of him until i talked with blimp people that had worked at airship int'l about the whole trans con collapse, and they told me of his demise. on the other hand, louie's notariaty was one of the first stories one could learn about as a wet-behind-the-ears helium head, even back in 2001. hell, i heard about the kissimmee blimp port thing back in '91/'92, before i entered the business. when i met alan maybe 4 years ago, at floyd bennett field in brooklyn, coworkers told me: that's the guy that knows everything about blimps. so as it turned out, one of my first questions to him was: "so, ah, you worked for pearlman, huh?" alan, politely answered: "yeah" (maybe a little disappointedly) and walked over to the guys he knew well. (sorry alan!)
kim, maybe you're right. maybe what alan tried to warn of years ago finally dawned on frankie, and it was to late. sadly, only frankie knew the answer to that. (again, not defending or defaming).
hoping that you and his family can someday find peace, sincerely,
wayne

[Kim]

Again, obviously common sense seems to have passed you up. Just because his name was on those documents means absolutely nothing. For crying out loud, learn to read or learn to listen, did the dead man know his name was being used for fake financials? I some how doubt that. So, as far as Frankie is concerned, mark my words, he was quite pissed when he learned of this scam, hence, the big blow up with Pearlman, 24 hours prior to his death. You figure it out if you can!

Behind all, even the love of fame, is the greediness and love of money. He concocted all these schemes and all these companies to move money around, have it for himself and put it somewhere.He's a total fool,who ruined his life, but he achieved the goal of getting a lot of money and putting it somewhere.That's the mentality.
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...as far as the missing monies, there maybe some left, but i would think that a lavish lifestyle like pearlman tried to live, and the bs that he tried to sustain probably weighed waste to most of it. on this, for the investors sake, i hope that i am wrong.

Posted by: wayne | May 02, 2008 at 11:29 PM

6:47 yes Papa Johns

[wayne]

seems to me that i remember seeing at one of the auctions 'snapshots' of lou with whom i presume was the u.s. secretary of transporation on a corporate jet. so, i think it is fair to say that lou did mingle with many aviation related people very early on, in the FAA, other governmental bodies, and the business sector, etc., trying to buy favor/favors. and like alan says, maybe even senior people were on a "need-to-know" basis. think about it: pearlman lied to basically everyone. the media i.e., 60 minutes/cbs news (the boy band lawsuits), the investors, the local communities (orlando, etc.), his friends, and even his very own family.
he used a died man's name/signature to continue the fraud and maintain his inflated ego. the list goes on.
however, no one now will ever know what, if anything, that certain departed individual knew or was involved in. there may always be those conspiracy theories, regardless if they are true or not. no matter what he may or may not have actually been guilty of, one fact does ring true:
he was guilty of being loyal and staying with lou way to long, until it was to late. i'm not defending or defaming him. whatever happened, did happened, and ultimately consumed his life, unfortunately. just something to consider.
as far as the missing monies, there maybe some left, but i would think that a lavish lifestyle like pearlman tried to live, and the bs that he tried to sustain probably weighed waste to most of it. on this, for the investors sake, i hope that i am wrong.

Alan, of course there is plenty of cridible information that was presented. Frankie Vazquez was listed as Director/Officer of dozens of Florida companies used by Pearlman to commit his frauds. There is no way that the could not have known that Pearlman was committing these frauds.

These companies and Frankie's involvement were listed on this blog many months ago.

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And until there is evidence to the contrary, I will continue to believe that Frankie was in the dark. I am sorry to hear that you feel otherwise but I am adamant about my position. If you are aware of some credible information that can change mind, I would hope that you would share it. If not, I hope that this issue can be dropped so that we can talk about the living.

Can Louie order delivery pizza on his canteen account?

Alan, to be fair, you posted a photo with Frankie in it, and your first comment on the bottom of this blog says that you will try to represent Frankie and his family at the sentencing. So, you opened up that subject yourself and it is a very normal reaction that people are going to comment and may see things very differently than you may

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I understand how you feel but I am not trying to attack anyone. Until there is proof that Frankie knew what was going on, it is my contention that his death preceded the unveiling of the Ponzi scheme. The problems at the Church Street Station complex, specifically the restaurant, was what he and Lou were arguing about shortly before his passing. And until there is evidence to the contrary, I will continue to believe that Frankie was in the dark. I am sorry to hear that you feel otherwise but I am adamant about my position. If you are aware of some credible information that can change mind, I would hope that you would share it. If not, I hope that this issue can be dropped so that we can talk about the living.

Posted by: Alan Gross | May 02, 2008 at 08:27 AM

I know of none who have even asked Crist this question. Why?

If the victims cry into their pillows, can anyone hear their sobbing?

If someone in the press asks Crist what his connection to Keck and Pearlman is, and he says "No comment", does he automatically qualify as a Presidential running mate?

It's like the tree in the forest question.

If no one knew that anything bad was happening, did it really happen?

[Kim]

No I am not naive, but, I am not afraid to use mine. So if I make an accusation or want to say something, I am going to use my real name. And as far as I am concerned the truth is what we are all looking for.

Who cares what there name is, the only thing that matters is truth. Are you so naive as to think most people use their real names?

[Kim]

What seems to get me most is that someone would come on here and make accusations with no proof, defame a man who is deceased and cannot defend himself and then have the odacity to insult other people. Get a grip moron. In case you don't understand plain english, it is very possible that Frankie was not in the know. Lou named people as heads of departments without their knowledge and even used a dead man's signature to procede with his criminal activities. So how can you say these things without proof and as for posting anonymously, means that you are too scared to reveal your identity and has nothing to do with being a publicity hog, it has to do with being afraid. Get a life and leave Alan alone. He is right, Frankie did not know the whole truth until the end and look what happened to him. Suicide my A@@. You are probably just another Pearlman crony trying to pass the buck and blame Frankie. I will make sure that doesn't fly if it's the last thing I ever do on this earth.

the bottom line is that i can speak for myself and many others that the only thing that would put closure to this scam would be a long painful heart attack that would end in death for pearlman

[Alan Gross]

"Alan, again you are attacking the messengers. You have done a great job. No one is accusing Frankie with fraud. The problem I have is you are defending Frankie by saying that he was not aware of Pearlman's frauds, a very unlikely scenario.

period"

I understand how you feel but I am not trying to attack anyone. Until there is proof that Frankie knew what was going on, it is my contention that his death preceded the unveiling of the Ponzi scheme. The problems at the Church Street Station complex, specifically the restaurant, was what he and Lou were arguing about shortly before his passing. And until there is evidence to the contrary, I will continue to believe that Frankie was in the dark. I am sorry to hear that you feel otherwise but I am adamant about my position. If you are aware of some credible information that can change mind, I would hope that you would share it. If not, I hope that this issue can be dropped so that we can talk about the living.

All Lous selfish egomanical psycho dealings over the years are now poised to deal him the best years of his life begging his "friends" to send in more k-y. God has a sense of humor.

Alan, again you are attacking the messengers. You have done a great job. No one is accusing Frankie with fraud. The problem I have is you are defending Frankie by saying that he was not aware of Pearlman's frauds, a very unlikely scenario.

period

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And my posts are about Pearlman's frauds, or can you not read?. Not Frankie Vazquez's frauds. Why are you so fixated on Frankie. What crimes did he commit? You won't post your name because you are afraid of people knowing who the jerk is who is making these statements.

Alan, you have to get thicker skin like Helen and Henderson.

Doing selfless good things for victims or trying to expose bad people is a thankless job fraught with danger and ridicule.

As much as you want to defend your friends and compatriots though, you can never really know anyone but yourself.

Frankie may have had a heart of gold, but he acquired his gold watch from the spoils of larceny and deceit, all the while an extension of Pearlman's own pudgy reach.

[Alan Gross]

"If I was a publicity hound like yourself, I would have posted my real identity long time ago. But this is not about me...it is about Lou Pearlman's frauds"

And my posts are about Pearlman's frauds, or can you not read?. Not Frankie Vazquez's frauds. Why are you so fixated on Frankie. What crimes did he commit? You won't post your name because you are afraid of people knowing who the jerk is who is making these statements. You are under the impression that I am enjoying the attention I am receiving. The truth is that it has been stressful. How many other people have come forward with the information that I provided? How many people have shown compassion and the desire to help the victims? You are nothing but a coward hiding behind your mama's apron strings!!!

Pearlman and his cohorts filed more vexatious lawsuits than Lou did corporate registrations.

Dare try to pull back the curtain to expose the Great Oz and you could expect to hear from Pringle, Garabo, Chamberlain, Ruta, Cooper or a host of other reputable firms or lackeys.

Behind a lot of it was good old Defrawy and Jans, practicing prestidigitators, both recorded making ruination threats.

Alan, we appreciate any information that will lead to the truth. Thank you. I would also like to say that as sorry as I am Lou came after you legally, at least he didn't take all your money so that you could not even defend yourself.

Alan, so now you are attacking the messenger.

What my identity is has nothing to do with what involvement or knowledge Frankie had of Pearlman's frauds, if any.

If I was a publicity hound like yourself, I would have posted my real identity long time ago. But this is not about me...it is about Lou Pearlman's frauds

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Am I hitting a nerve? Why do you post anonymously? I've been pretty open. Why don't you post your name?

there you go again Alan

you are saying that you are absolutely sure beyond a doubt that Frankie knew nothing of the Pearlman frauds

amazing

and again, stop your nonsense

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Your assertions are hurtful and untrue.

[Alan Gross]

"stop your nonsense"

Am I hitting a nerve? Why do you post anonymously? I've been pretty open. Why don't you post your name? If you have knowledge about something, why don't you spill it? I WAS Lou's right hand man at one time so I do have credible information that people seem to want to hear. As for your intimations about Frankie, you are a feeble-minded person for making such statements. Your assertions are hurtful and untrue.

Alan is telling the truth about himself and it certainly is believable.

But what he is saying about Frankie's lack of knowledge in the Pearlman's frauds, just doesn't cut it.

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Stop harrassing Alan. I happen to know Frankie, and let me tell you, he did not know Pearlman's scheme. In fact, his family had quite a bit invested with Pearlman. Don't people realize by now that Alan is telling the truth. Alan and Frankie never became wealthy like Pearlman, even though they were his childhood friends. We were all duped by Pearlman.

Alan, we feel for you on the legal threats by Lou Pearlman. Sorry that you had to spend even one penny defending yourself legally.

It turns out that this eventually became his MO in the coming years after your problems with him.

The Fashion Rock RICO lawsuit filed against Torelli, Henderson and Villasenor was in retaliation for several individuals assisting the Florida Attorney General's Office in gathering fraud data on him. Unfortunately, little did everyone know that he had Crist/MacGregor under his pocket also.

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I often wonder if others also contacted government agencies and put forth complaints against the Company.

Alan - you don't "get it" do you?

YOU were not Lou Pearlman's right hand man for many years until recently.

YOU were not the officer/director of dozens of Pearlman companies.

YOU did not have access to Pearlman companies and assets like Frankie did in the last 10 years.

stop your nonsense

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If I seemed annoyed in my previous post, it is because I am. If I believed that there was a fleet of aircraft, then Frankie surely would have been deceived as well.

Stop harrassing Alan. I happen to know Frankie, and let me tell you, he did not know Pearlman's scheme. In fact, his family had quite a bit invested with Pearlman. Don't people realize by now that Alan is telling the truth. Alan and Frankie never became wealthy like Pearlman, even though they were his childhood friends. We were all duped by Pearlman.

ok Alan

keep on protecting Frankie

yep, Lou sure deceived him into being the main Director/officer of about 20 Florida corporations.

Again, how could an aviation zealot not know that the 20 airplane fleet consisted of only 1 plane?

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That means he was deceived as well.

I asked Helen to post my two page letter to the SEC so that all of you can understand how I fit into the big picture regarding the saga of Lou Pearlman. Many of you doubte