Another baseball job is open
Gibbs. Tarpon Springs. St. Petersburg Catholic. And now...Canterbury.
Are there enough baseball coaches to go around?
Anyway, Canterbury is looking for a baseball coach (and we predict there are more schools to come). If you're interested in heading up the Crusader program, send a coaching resume, along with references, to Athletic Director Dave Smith davesmith@canterbury-fl.org.


Carden would be a great hire. He is the best coach ever!
Posted by: | May 08, 2008 at 12:05 PM
Maybe the schools should consider hiring the parents to coach, then maybe they would be happy. Who in their right mind would want to coach kids who have a breathing parent.
Posted by: | May 08, 2008 at 03:23 PM
That would be a true statement. Let the kids parents coach them. They were the greatest coach ever growing up and they won every game they coached just ask them.
Baseball parents are the worst thing in baseball. They are worse then any drug ever taken.
The best part was to find out that the dad never even made his high school team but knows more then the coch who played. ASK Countryside!
Posted by: | May 08, 2008 at 04:17 PM
Lets see in two years now..
Bogie, Gibbs, Countryside, Tarpon, Osceola, Canterberry, Northeast, SPC, Largo Anymore out there.?
Here's the reason.
Parents, Parents, Parents, Parents and did I say Parents?
Posted by: | May 08, 2008 at 04:22 PM
This just in: The St Pete Catholic job is open too. Add another one
Posted by: | May 08, 2008 at 05:35 PM
Why did the Canterbury coach leave before the Easter Tournaments?
Posted by: | May 08, 2008 at 06:29 PM
He was ejected from a regular season game and then refused to leave the field but mostly because he caused problems for the umps after the game, so he was in trouble with the state and the school-they both gave him a long suspension
Posted by: | May 08, 2008 at 07:49 PM
7:49, u dont know what your talking about. He was actually told to resign or be fired from the job. The school didnt want to wait 3 games so they come up with this awesome idea and cost canterbury its season
Posted by: | May 08, 2008 at 09:06 PM
Perry Lopez is job hunting
Posted by: | May 08, 2008 at 09:23 PM
Well the consensus seems to have hit the nail on the head. PARENTS. As a parent I must say I love my children, however, I never blamed a coach for my child striking out during a game, I never blamed a coach for my child making an error whether physically or mentally. I never blame a coach for his decisions that would benefit the entire TEAM (Together Everyone Achieves More - get it no I). Unfortunately as an educator, I see it more and more in todays society. Parent's do not appreciate it when their child fails. There is alot of personal failure when you play baseball. You can't cover up the mistake, cause it's out there for everyone to see. Instead of placing blame on coaches we should all try something different. Teach our children to learn from our failures. We can only suceed if we fail and unfortunately we are not perfect and we will fail only to learn from those failures and correct them to become better. It's OK Mom and Dad the sun will come up tomorrow and life will go on. To all the coaches who have given their heart and soul to the game. THANK YOU and God Bless.
Posted by: | May 09, 2008 at 07:42 AM
9:06-why do you think the school told him to resign though? He wasn't innocent. BTW-ironically, he is a parent of a player too, and 2 of his assistants are parents, so it's odd that everyone says "the parents ran him off" when they composed 3 of the starting 9.
Posted by: | May 09, 2008 at 08:24 AM
The parents have a little league mentality and think they know baseball because they watch it on tv.
parents suck and try to live through thier kids
sounds like your one of them 8:24
you suck too
Posted by: | May 09, 2008 at 09:11 AM
"He was actually told to resign or be fired from the job."
For no reason? Hmmm, the first answer seems to be a good reason for the second answer, if true.
Posted by: | May 09, 2008 at 09:16 AM
Don't lump all the parents in one category. Some of the parents actually played the game professionally or played at a fairly high level and some actually are more qualified to coach than some of these coaches out there. You can measure a coach by what he does for his senior players in regards to helping them with scholarships. If he doesn't then its up to you to get the players the summer exposure they need - so they can be recognized for their talents. Some of the coaches are in it simply for the banquet sceen and some really are helping kids with scholarships...
By the way - what is playing through their kids mean - please explain...
Posted by: Ricky Mantle | May 09, 2008 at 09:34 AM
Nobody said coaching was easy. Yes, parents are / can be a PITA, but I think the most telling factor is a lack of a JV system in Pinellas County.
This puts kids on varsity teams and inflates numbers, with kids who have no business being on a varsity team. These kids come from LL and AAU programs where they are stars, and parents think that translates into a star HS player.
Actually had a kid last year who stated, "I made the team, and I should get equal playing time." I asked what fantasy world he lived in, and then his mom reiterated the same comments, relating it to her AAU girls basketball team and playing time.
In Pinellas, there is no longer a transition period like there is in other counties. No Freshman baseball, No JV baseball. It's straight to varsity for a lot of kids (and Parents) and it really is the root of the problem. It wasn't that long ago, that unless you were some super-phenom, you had ZERO chance of being on a varsity team before your Junior year, and you had to earn that.
Here we are in the Mecca of baseball history, and short-sighted county school board (Along with every principal who voted against a JV program,,,,, yes, all of them voted NO)There is no learning curve for either the kids, or the parents of these kids. JV has been a way to educate and acclimate players and parents to the HS level in the past.
Last, coaches who don't have a complete program, year-round, instruct kids in baseball and the right way to play the game, should move on. Should a season record be the measuring stick of a program? Probably not in most cases. Have parents always been the way they are now? I don't think it has been as intense as it is lately, but parents have always been parents. It wasn't too many years ago that coaches put players off their HS team because or problem parents.
Posted by: T | May 09, 2008 at 10:02 AM
about 1% of parents would fall into that category ricky. and if your so great you should volunteer to help out.
And it is not the coaches fault that your son didn't get a scholarship, if he was good they will find him.
YOUR KID IS NOT AS GOOD AS YOU THINK
YOU ARE THE PROBLEM RICKY
STOP LIVING YOUR FAILED DREAM THROUGH YOUR KID
Posted by: | May 09, 2008 at 10:03 AM
10:03 is on the ball!
you are so right!!
amen brother!
Posted by: | May 09, 2008 at 11:37 AM
GREAT post T. Many of us couldn't agree more that jv is needed in Pinellas.
Posted by: | May 09, 2008 at 12:37 PM
Seminole has 10 assistants why don't they offer the most qualified the job? They obviously know what it takes to win!
Posted by: | May 09, 2008 at 01:29 PM
If you win parents don't bother the coach. Bottom line.
Posted by: | May 09, 2008 at 01:31 PM
Hey "no name guy" at 10:03AM. My son did get a D1 scholarship and a JC full ride and will attend the JC program this August. His HS coach does nothing for his seniors and that is his reputation. And by the way I do still coach and I have a good reputation in the game and we have developed a good select team for summer baseball - which is where my son received the most attention. Hey please explain the failed dream thing. And you are a dinosour - hope you are not coaching KingPin...
Posted by: Ricky Mantle | May 09, 2008 at 03:09 PM
9:34am - Just because a parent played the game professionally does not qualify them to judge. You can measure a coach by helping with scholarships, news flash, coaches do not get players scholarships. i would rather measure a coach by their character.
10:02am - 10:03am - 11:37am - 12:37pm - well said
1:29pm - ????????
1:31pm - That statement is an abomination, ask any coach who won a state title.
3:09pm - Talent is God given..be humble.....Fame is man given..be grateful.....Conceit is self given..be careful.....And since you have a reputation to hang your hat on, throw it in the ring. There are a few head coaching spots open, then you can get every senior a full scholarship.
Posted by: | May 09, 2008 at 05:22 PM
Mr 05:22PM - Many Parents do know the game well and lots of parents played college and minor league baseball -- not 1% {pulled that out of the sky}. Most coaches with any kind of character do try to help their seniors that are talented enough with a scholarship. Some of the old dinosours coaches out there need to move on. The game has passed them by.
Posted by: Bo Simms | May 10, 2008 at 09:08 AM
When will Vaughan get the boot
Posted by: | May 10, 2008 at 09:23 AM
He'll just leave because next year he will actually have to coach with all his seniors leaving- probably the typical "spend more time with the family" excuse.
Posted by: | May 10, 2008 at 09:28 AM
this team was very arrogant, talked to much smack,
had no respect, even from teams they beat because of their attitude, this lack of sportsmanship had to come from a lack of leadership...even though they didn't have a lack of talent...give them enough riope and they evetually hang themselves...they couldn't handle their own success...
serves them right
Posted by: | May 10, 2008 at 01:53 PM
Parents listen. If you think your son's high school coach is going to get them a full ride in baseball, think again. There are 11.7 D1 scholarships available at each school. So when someone says their son got a full ride either they didn't do the math or they are talking BS. Most college teams carry 25 to 30 players, there is no way everyone of them is a full scholarship player. Maybe add in Bright Futures and Florida Prepaid, and academic yeah, but not full athletic. Don't blame the coaches, blame NCAA -- football has 80 scholarships available, but of course the reason for that is football brings in all the money. Be thankful your children graduate high school and can get into college to become adults. That's what is important. If you're fortunate to play in college, congratulations and enjoy it, but get your education because one day when you wake up you have to have a job to survive you'll need those four years. Life's tough and it ain't getting better.
Posted by: | May 10, 2008 at 03:56 PM
3:56PM - Well said, very well said.
Posted by: Pinellas County BB Coach | May 10, 2008 at 09:40 PM
Who are you talking about 1:53pm- CCC? The team is not arrogant - a couple players maybe- but not the whole team.
Posted by: | May 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Did you know that there is only one state champion in Pinellas county PUBLIC schools in the last 30 years.
Seminole 2001.
Why ?
Centralized athletics.
Either side of the bridge the baseball has jv Pinellas doesn not.
There facilities are 10 times better than those in Pinellas county excluding the few that play on fields away from campus.
Give the varsity coaches a paid assistant coach like the other sports receive.
Posted by: bball fan | May 12, 2008 at 07:36 AM
May 9 at 9:34 wrote
"Some of the coaches are in it simply for the banquet sceen and some really are helping kids with scholarships..."
You are a complete idiot. Coaches hate banquets they are a pain in the ... You can't judge a coach on the amount of scholarships his players get. And parents need to back off
Posted by: | May 12, 2008 at 09:09 AM
FORMER canterbury coach played pro baseball, but doesn't have a clue what sports are all about. His teams mirrored his bad attitude, lack of poise & disgusting temper tantrums that he himself displays on a consistent basis. He has used the game of baseball for all the wrong reasons & has created horribly undisciiplined, "poor sports" that blame the umps & everyone else but themselves for their shortcomings. He's convinced he's showing them how to be "TOUGH"! He's a 40 yr old cry-baby that has poisoned the minds of some great kids. I hope the kids have a chance to see there is a better way!!
Posted by: | May 12, 2008 at 01:33 PM
Hamilton should never coach another boy as long as he lives. He stands for everything that is wrong w/ sports!!!
Posted by: | May 12, 2008 at 01:36 PM
Someone said if you win they dont complain? You dont coach then do you? If little 5'4" 125 pound John doesn't play and doesn't grow dont blame the coach. Most schools in Pinellas including where I coached at didnt even have 9 kids you could put on a field together. They came from parents who said they played the game and coached there son for years. If that's the case could super daddy maybe go back over the fundamentals you forgot to teach him?
There are very few free rides for kids like someone else had said. There are some super kids this year in Pinellas and what 2-3 have full rides? Rodgers, Meende and someone else I forgot. Did anyone notice the size of these 2?
Posted by: | May 12, 2008 at 02:48 PM
Talent will only get you part of the way - passion and hard work get you the rest. Coaches can't teach that - they have a hard enough job trying to keep the parents atbay - are the parents going to follow their kids to college and help them get noticed and play?
Posted by: | May 12, 2008 at 05:07 PM
It's very easy to distinguish comments made by students, fans and parents. Several Canterbury baseball team members were consistently displaying awful sportsmanship throughout the season. Needless to say, the coaches were unable to maintain control and they, themselves were miserable examples. Canterbury administration should "WAKE-UP" and find coaches with abilities to coach and not cater to their own selfishness and be willing to stand up to parents that are constantly complaining and using the blame game ticket!!
Posted by: | May 13, 2008 at 07:13 AM