The country's new HUD secretary, Shaun Donovan, is a Harvard University-trained architect who plied the affordable housing trade as an undersecretary in the Clinton administration and as head of New York City's subsidized housing endeavors.
An affordable housing bureaucrat with a sense of building aesthetics - you don't see that combination too often.
He granted the St. Petersburg Times a 10-minute interview today. As expected, Donovan inserted plenty of plugs for his boss, President Obama. Many answers were prefaced with a perfunctory "As the president said yesterday..."
Here's an edited transcript of the conversation:
TIMES: In light of the foreclosure crisis, what if any changes would you propose to the Community Reinvestment Act to avoid unsound lending (The CRA is a 1977 law that encourages lenders to make loans to lower income people in the inner cities)?
DONOVAN: I think it's one of the ingredients the president made clear in his speech. We need to fundamentally rethink the way we regulate the system. Clearly there was a failure to provide clear, transparent information to consumers. I think CRA is an example of that. You have had large changes in the mortgage market since the law was introduced and the regulatory system has not kept up. But the focus right now is to get out of the current crisis.
TIMES: You were successful in limiting foreclosures to only a handful when you worked in New York. How applicable is that experience to limiting foreclosures in Florida and the nation?
DONOVAN: I think it’s very applicable. You need a back to basics approach, fundamental common sense values. We got ourselves into a period when we forgot those values and everyone thought there was a quick buck to be made. A mortgage that's no more than 31 percent of one's income is a widely accepted standard. It worked in New York and and it will work in the new plan as well.
TIMES: Florida was once thought of as a low cost state. Now it has an affordable housing problem. How can the federal government help?
DONOVAN: Clearly we've got to stabilize the foreclosure crisis there. In Tampa-St. Petersburg alone, 7.7 percent of all loans are either 90 days delinquent or in foreclosure, far higher than the national rate of 5.2 percent. I think the recovery bill has a lot to offer for affordability. There's $2-billion in neighborhood stabilization funding. One thing we forget is that more than a third of the victims of foreclosure are renters. They're innocent victims. There's $1.5-billion in emergency shelter grants to help the most vulnerable victims of foreclosure.
TIMES: Hope for Homeowners, approved by President Bush and Congress last year, has been pretty much a flop and has helped only a few dozen people. How do we ensure that other mortgage bailout plans succeed where Hope for Homeowners failed?
DONOVAN: We are proposing legislative changes to make Hope to Homeowners work better. Fees and other restrictions made the program pretty much unworkable. It’s clearly not being used at the scale that it needs to be. Hope for Homeowners was a program that included significant loan principal reduction. It's a good complement to the president's plan, which deals mostly with interest rate reductions.
TIMES: If the latest housing and mortgage bailout fails, what other weapons do you have at your disposal?
DONOVAN: I think one thing the president made clear is that this is no longer just a mortgage crisis. Our economic crisis is about jobs and the stability of the whole financial system. The three legs of the stool are the housing plan, the recovery bill signed on Tuesday, as well as the financial stability plan Treasury Secretary Geithner announced last week. All have to work together to be successful.
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