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    <updated>2008-12-03T18:46:51Z</updated>
    <subtitle>(Un)Real Estate offers a peek at the housing market usually reserved for insiders. </subtitle>
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        <title>Record number of mortgage applications, but where are the closings?</title>
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        <published>2008-12-03T13:46:51-05:00</published>
        <updated>2008-12-03T18:46:56Z</updated>
        <summary>You keep waiting for the other shoe to drop in today's news that mortgage applications swelled to record heights last week. And you didn't have to wait long: The...data is only for submitted applications, not closed loans, so a good...</summary>
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            <name>James Thorner</name>
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<content type="xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://blogs.tampabay.com/realestate/"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>You keep waiting for the other shoe to drop in <a href="http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/081203/business_us_usa_economy_mortgages.html">today's news</a> that mortgage applications swelled to record heights last week.</p>

<p>And you didn't have to wait long: </p><blockquote dir="ltr"><p>The...data is only for submitted applications, not closed loans, so a good amount may get rejected because qualifying standards are tighter and many applicants will probably find they do not have the equity to refinance given the decline in home prices.</p></blockquote><p dir="ltr">Indeed. But the good news seems to be that people <em>want</em> to buy homes, even if they lack the financial means to do so.</p><xhtml:img xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/typepad/tampabaycom/blogs/realestate/~4/473866012" height="1" width="1" /></div></content>


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        <title>Could immigrants be Florida housing saviors?</title>
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        <published>2008-12-02T17:31:14-05:00</published>
        <updated>2008-12-02T22:31:21Z</updated>
        <summary>From a story titled The Future For Home Prices from Tuesday's Wall Street Journal: So, as homeowners and buyers look ahead, what factors will determine whether their homes are really likely to rise in value, rather than just in their...</summary>
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            <name>James Thorner</name>
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<content type="xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://blogs.tampabay.com/realestate/"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>From a story titled <strong>The Future For Home Prices</strong> from Tuesday's <strong>Wall Street Journal:</strong></p><blockquote dir="ltr"><p>So, as homeowners and buyers look ahead, what factors will determine whether their homes are really likely to rise in value, rather than just in their dreams? What are some of the bullish signs -- and some of the bearish ones?</p>

<p>In the long term, house prices are driven by fundamentals that are hard to predict: immigration, birth rates, the size and nature of households, and incomes. The trick is to figure out where job and income growth will be strongest and where immigrants and others will want to live.</p>

<p>William Frey, a demographer and senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, a think tank in Washington, says young people and immigrants are likely to flow to Florida, Georgia, the Carolinas, Tennessee, Virginia, Nevada, Arizona and some of the more affordable interior parts of California.</p>

<p>These areas generally have lower housing costs than the Pacific Coast or Northeast and job growth from modern industries and leisure businesses, he says. Areas with little immigration and low growth or falling populations are likely to include Michigan, Ohio, the Dakotas, Iowa, western Pennsylvania and upstate New York, Mr. Frey says.</p></blockquote><p dir="ltr"><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122764977315457619.html">Whole thing here.</a></p><xhtml:img xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/typepad/tampabaycom/blogs/realestate/~4/472957767" height="1" width="1" /></div></content>


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        <title>Crater Lake: Housing market to swim with fishes 2 more years</title>
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        <published>2008-12-02T12:07:48-05:00</published>
        <updated>2008-12-02T19:50:05Z</updated>
        <summary>The University of Central Florida's latest U.S. economic forecast makes for some heart fluttering reading. Keeping in mind that its scope is national, the report offers more sad tidings for real estate. Economist Sean Snaith predicts the new home construction...</summary>
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&lt;div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt;&lt;p&gt;The &lt;strong&gt;University of Central Florida's latest U.S. economic forecast&lt;/strong&gt; makes for some heart fluttering reading. Keeping in mind that its scope is national, the report offers more sad tidings for real estate.&lt;a onclick="window.open(this.href, '_blank', 'width=138,height=200,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false" href="http://blogs.tampabay.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/12/02/snatth_3.jpeg"&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a onclick="window.open(this.href, '_blank', 'width=138,height=200,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false" href="http://blogs.tampabay.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/12/02/snatth_2.jpeg"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a onclick="window.open(this.href, '_blank', 'width=138,height=200,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false" href="http://blogs.tampabay.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/12/02/snatth.jpeg"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a onclick="window.open(this.href, '_blank', 'width=138,height=200,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false" href="http://blogs.tampabay.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/12/02/snatth_4.jpeg"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Economist Sean Snaith predicts the new&lt;a onclick="window.open(this.href, '_blank', 'width=138,height=200,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false" href="http://blogs.tampabay.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/12/02/snatth_5.jpeg"&gt;&lt;img title="Snatth_5" height="144" alt="Snatth_5" src="http://blogs.tampabay.com/realestate/images/2008/12/02/snatth_5.jpeg" width="100" border="0" style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 5px 5px" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; home construction will bottom in the 2nd quarter of 2009, but that existing home sales won't splash down until 2010. The housing market will experience a prolonged rehabilitation through 2010 as the credit channels start to unclog and will return to life in 2011.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But what sort of revitalization will that be? Nothing to rave about, if Snaith is to be believed. Here's his existing home sales forecast:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;2008: 4.3 million&lt;/li&gt;

&lt;li&gt;2009: 3.9 million&lt;/li&gt;

&lt;li&gt;2010: 3.86 million&lt;/li&gt;

&lt;li&gt;2011: 4.13 million&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Note that even during the return-to-normalcy year of 2011, sales will still lag dead-as-a-dog 2008. I'm curious what Snaith's Florida forecast will show. I suspect since our housing market tanked hard and early, we'll be in better shape in 2011 than the nation as a whole.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bus.ucf.edu/hitec/Pages/Forecasts/U.S.%20Forecasts/UCF-US-Forecast-December2008.pdf"&gt;Click here to read the forecast.&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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        <title>They kept building and building and building...</title>
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        <published>2008-12-01T16:54:04-05:00</published>
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        <summary>Thanks to cheap foreclosure properties, home sales may be increasing along the Tampa-Orlando axis, but we still suffer disproportionately from an excess of empty new homes. Here's the latest comment from Metrostudy, which tracks the home construction business down to...</summary>
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            <name>James Thorner</name>
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<content type="xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://blogs.tampabay.com/realestate/"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Thanks to cheap foreclosure properties, home sales may be increasing along the Tampa-Orlando axis, but we still suffer disproportionately from an excess of empty new homes. Here's the latest comment from Metrostudy, which tracks the home construction business down to the subdivision level:</p><blockquote dir="ltr"><p>The markets that have the most serious problems are Central Florida, with 8.9 months of finished, vacant home inventory, South Florida, with 8.3 months, Atlanta, with 8.1 months, and Coastal Los Angeles and Naples/Ft. Myers, each with 8 months. These readings are all far in excess of the “equilibrium” level of 1.5 to 2.5 months that is typical in a normal market.</p></blockquote><p dir="ltr">They're still building houses in my suburban subdivision, even though a bunch of houses completed 2 years ago still sit empty. Just goes to show that if the price is right, many buyers prefer to build from scratch, even if the older places have never been occupied. While that's not doing much to reduce the housing glut, it helps keeps tradesmen employed, no small matter in the recession. </p>

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        <title>Drug dealers and brain-dead bankers: The makings of a Tampa housing disaster</title>
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        <published>2008-12-01T16:37:04-05:00</published>
        <updated>2008-12-01T21:37:14Z</updated>
        <summary>In case you missed it on Sunday, here's an excellent story about a Tampa housing fiasco by Times reporter Michael Van Sickler. It's all about the unhappy collusion between greedy hear-no-evil-see-no-evil bankers and street criminals supposedly going legit through real...</summary>
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            <name>James Thorner</name>
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<content type="xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://blogs.tampabay.com/realestate/"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">In case you missed it on Sunday, here's an <a href="http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/article919554.ece">excellent story</a> about a Tampa housing fiasco by Times reporter Michael Van Sickler. </p>

<p dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">It's all about the unhappy collusion between greedy hear-no-evil-see-no-evil bankers and street criminals supposedly going legit through real estate "investing." Multipy this case study a few thousand times and you've got the mess we're experiencing now. </p>

<p dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">Interesting quote from a loan officer at a major Tampa mortgage lender:</p><blockquote dir="ltr"><p>"We had quotas we had to meet," Albury said. "We didn't have time to look at them."</p></blockquote><xhtml:img xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/typepad/tampabaycom/blogs/realestate/~4/471726771" height="1" width="1" /></div></content>


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        <title>Don't go West, young man: Tampa home prices beat California's</title>
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        <published>2008-11-25T12:17:57-05:00</published>
        <updated>2008-11-25T17:18:02Z</updated>
        <summary>The grass is always browner on the other side of the fence. I think it's time to invert that old maxim after studying the latest S&amp;P Case Shiller home price index. The index shows Tampa area home prices declining 18.5...</summary>
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            <name>James Thorner</name>
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&lt;div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt;&lt;p&gt;The grass is always browner on the other side of the fence. I think it's time to invert that old maxim after studying the latest S&amp;amp;P Case Shiller home price index.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The index shows Tampa area home prices declining 18.5 percent year over year in September. But we're feeling no where near the misery of housing markets out West, or in Miami for that matter.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"&gt;Take a look at this list of home price losers, culled from &lt;a href="http://www2.standardandpoors.com/spf/pdf/index/CSHomePrice_Release_112555.pdf"&gt;Case-Shiller's 20-city index&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Phoenix: -31.9 percent&lt;/li&gt;

&lt;li&gt;Las Vegas: -31.3 percent&lt;/li&gt;

&lt;li&gt;San Franciso: -29.5 percent&lt;/li&gt;

&lt;li&gt;Miami: -28.4 percent&lt;/li&gt;

&lt;li&gt;Los Angeles: -27.6 percent&lt;/li&gt;

&lt;li&gt;San Diego: -26.3 percent&lt;/li&gt;

&lt;li&gt;Detroit: -18.6 percent&lt;/li&gt;

&lt;li&gt;Tampa: -18.5 percent &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nationally, Case-Shiller says prices declined 16.6 percent. So we're not that far from the average. Tampa area housing prices have retreated to what they were in October-November 2004 and are 28 percent below the July 2006 peak, according to the index. &lt;/p&gt;

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        <title>We've got a housing trend: Unstable stability</title>
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        <published>2008-11-25T08:42:41-05:00</published>
        <updated>2008-11-25T13:42:48Z</updated>
        <summary>After half a year of crunching numbers, it's safe to say that home sales in the Tampa Bay area have stabilized. October sales were up 11 percent year over year, from 1,814 in October 2007 to 2,021 in October 2008...</summary>
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            <name>James Thorner</name>
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<content type="xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://blogs.tampabay.com/realestate/"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>After half a year of crunching numbers, it's safe to say that home sales in the Tampa Bay area have stabilized. October sales were up 11 percent year over year, from 1,814 in October 2007 to 2,021 in October 2008</p>

<p>That's the good news. But you already know the bad news.</p>

<p>About a third of the transactions involved bank-owned or other foreclosure properties. That partly explains the steep decline in the median home sale price the past year. The Tampa price fell from $205,600 to $152,300.</p>

<p>Let's call it "unstable stability". The phenomenon is statewide if you exclude northern Florida markets largely exempt from the early stages of the housing bust in 2005-06, but catching the worst of it now. Thirteen of 20 markets covered by the Florida Association of Realtors reported rising sales in October.</p>

<p><a href="http://media.living.net/statistics/2008/Oct%202008%20home%20chart.pdf">Here's a state chart from the Realtors.</a> </p>



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        <title>South Florida spared development...for a few years at least</title>
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        <published>2008-11-18T15:02:39-05:00</published>
        <updated>2008-11-18T20:08:17Z</updated>
        <summary>The housing slump and economic downturn have taken the itch off Alico Inc.’s plans to develop much of its 136,000 rural acres in South Florida. The citrus and cattle behemoth announced this week that it will "maintain its focus on...</summary>
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            <name>James Thorner</name>
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<content type="xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://blogs.tampabay.com/realestate/"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>The housing slump and economic downturn have taken the itch off Alico Inc.’s plans to develop much of its 136,000 rural acres in South Florida.</p>

<p>The citrus and cattle behemoth announced this week that it will "maintain its focus on its agriculture operations" and "delay any material effort to expand into income producing real estate."</p>

<p>To solidify its change of focus, Alico replaced president and chief executive Dan Gunter, a development proponent, with Steven M. Smith, Alico’s former head of agricultural operations.</p>

<p>Alico, with land in Collier, Glades, Hendry, Lee and Polk counties, took shape under the leadership of Florida land baron Ben Hill Griffin Jr., until his death one of the world’s richest men.</p>

<p>His descendents planned to cash in much of the land for development until the recent downturn forced them to defer those ambitions. (One of his Griffin's granddaughters is Katherine Harris, former Florida Secretary of State and ex-Congresswoman from Sarasota)</p>

<p>One of the most shocking maps I've seen in recent years was a projection of what South-Central Florida would look like in a couple of decades. Splotches of homes, tens of thousands of them, blanketed what now is orange groves, swamps and cattle pasture. It was all split by a new super highway running somewhere between Fort Myers and Lake Okeechobee.</p>

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        <title>The best home buying incentive: Low prices</title>
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        <published>2008-11-18T13:48:21-05:00</published>
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        <summary>We're blue in the face from repeating this, but housing is one of the most incentivized industries in the country. We've got low interest rates, the mortgage interest deduction, Florida's Save Our Homes law, downpayment assistance for low income buyers,...</summary>
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            <name>James Thorner</name>
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<content type="xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" xml:base="http://blogs.tampabay.com/realestate/"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>We're blue in the face from repeating this, but housing is one of the most incentivized industries in the country. We've got low interest rates, the mortgage interest deduction, Florida's Save Our Homes law, downpayment assistance for low income buyers, etc. It's not stopping builders from demanding more. Here's a snippet from today's Wall Street Journal Online:</p><blockquote dir="ltr"><p>A bustling stock rally ground to a halt Tuesday following new signs that the housing market remains under heavy pressure.</p>

<p>New data from the National Association of Home Builders were particularly worrisome. The organization said on Tuesday that its November index of new, single-family homes fell to an all-time low of 9, down from 14 in October.</p>

<p>"Today's report shows that we are in a crisis situation," said NAHB Chairman Sandy Dunn, a home builder from West Virginia. "If there's any hope of turning this economy around, Congress and the (Bush) Administration need to focus on stabilizing housing."</p>

<p>Ms. Dunn said uncertainty about the economy has driven consumers from the housing market.</p>

<p>"It's going to take some major incentives to bring them back," she said. She argued that Congress should pass new economic stimulus legislation that includes new home-buying incentives.</p></blockquote><p dir="ltr" /><xhtml:img xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/typepad/tampabaycom/blogs/realestate/~4/457483169" height="1" width="1" /></div></content>


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        <title>A bit of bitter humor about housing mess</title>
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        <summary>Here's humorist P.J. O'Rourke's latest take on the housing crisis. Amazingly, I think he sums it up better than most of our hifalutin' analysts: "For almost three decades we've been trying to teach average Americans to act like "stakeholders" in...</summary>
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            <name>James Thorner</name>
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&lt;div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Here's &lt;strong&gt;humorist P.J. O'Rourke's&lt;/strong&gt; latest take on the &lt;strong&gt;housing crisis.&lt;/strong&gt; Amazingly, I think he sums it up better than most of our hifalutin' analysts:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;For almost three decades we've been trying to teach average Americans to act like &amp;quot;stakeholders&amp;quot; in their economy. They learned. They're crying and whining for government bailouts just like the billionaire stakeholders in banks and investment houses. Aid, I can assure you, will be forthcoming from President Obama.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Then average Americans will learn the wisdom of Ronald Reagan's statement: &amp;quot;The ten most dangerous words in the English language are, 'I'm from the federal government, and I'm here to help.' &amp;quot; Ask a Katrina survivor.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The left has no idea what's going on in the financial crisis. And I honor their confusion. Jim Jerk down the road from me, with all the cars up on blocks in his front yard, falls behind in his mortgage payments, and the economy of Iceland implodes. I'm missing a few pieces of this puzzle myself.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Under constant political pressure, which went almost unresisted by conservatives, a lot of lousy mortgages that would never be repaid were handed out to Jim Jerk and his drinking buddies and all the ex-wives and single mothers with whom Jim and his pals have littered the nation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Wall Street looked at the worthless paper and thought, &amp;quot;How can we make a buck off this?&amp;quot; The answer was to wrap it in a bow. Take a wide enough variety of lousy mortgages--some from the East, some from the West, some from the cities, some from the suburbs, some from shacks, some from McMansions--bundle them together and put pressure on the bond rating agencies to do fancy risk management math, and you get a &amp;quot;collateralized debt obligation&amp;quot; with a triple-A rating. Good as cash. Until it wasn't.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Or, put another way, Wall Street was pulling the &amp;quot;room full of horse s--&amp;quot; trick. Brokerages were saying, &amp;quot;We're going to sell you a room full of horse s--. And with that much horse s--, you just know there's a pony in there somewhere.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Anyway, it's no use blaming Wall Street. Blaming Wall Street for being greedy is like scolding defensive linemen for being big and aggressive. The people on Wall Street never claimed to be public servants. They took no oath of office. They're in it for the money. We pay them to be in it for the money. We don't want our retirement accounts to get a 2 percent return. (Although that sounds pretty good at the moment.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What will destroy our country and us is not the financial crisis but the fact that liberals think the free market is some kind of sect or cult, which conservatives have asked Americans to take on faith. That's not what the free market is. The free market is just a measurement, a device to tell us what people are willing to pay for any given thing at any given moment.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The free market is a bathroom scale. You may hate what you see when you step on the scale. &amp;quot;Jeeze, 230 pounds!&amp;quot; But you can't pass a law making yourself weigh 185. Liberals think you can. And voters--all the voters, right up to the tippy-top corner office of Goldman Sachs--think so too.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.weeklystandard.com/Utilities/printer_preview.asp?idArticle=15791"&gt;Here's the whole thing&lt;/a&gt;. It's a longer article about the missteps of the Republican/conservative movement.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;

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