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January 17, 2008

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Tom

Oh, Mr. Foster, by the way, the book that Adolph Hitler wrote is Mein Kampf, not Mein Kamph...

Google the terms, he so used the lines.

Anyway..."other theories" makes my ears bleed. What. Other. Theories?

You won't say, will you, Mr. Foster? Because you KNOW that there are no other scientific theories. You KNOW that you will be called out for not knowing what a scientific theory is. You simply want to cloud this discussion with maybes and what ifs and nothing definitive.

It's disgusting.

Why isn't the Times looking into this plagiarism charge?

Brian

So...we've established that a politician is a moron, a liar, and a thief.

Where's the news?

In his letter, Mr. Foster said - "Much to the public's chagrin, I even used a few lines from Dr. James Kennedy as I made a connection between Darwin and Hitler" (taken from Mr. Foster's letter to the St. Pete Times)

It's surprising he doesn't understand why such a big deal is being made out of that fact. Using a "few lines" from someone is fine and dandy provided you give them the appropriate credit. Failure to do so is plagiarism.

You would think as an attorney, he would notice the little (c) at the bottom of the page from the website where he took those "few lines". Bad boy, Mr. Foster.

Tom

You know, Mr. Foster, the thing that disturbs me the most is that you are a member of the bar, yet you are choosing a path that has been determined to be unconstitutional by federal courts all the way to the Supreme Court.

Again, don't you have any experience working with case law? Any move to put creationism/ID into schools is bound to go down in flames, wasting precious taxpayer's money on a personal crusade. That is a classic example of malfeasance - using public funds to further your own beliefs.

I'm sorry your feelings were hurt, but you need to know that the idea of pushing the school board to violate the establishment clause of the first amendment is loco.

I'm not sure I want a mayor who pays this much attention to bloggers in the first place. Get a life Foster. There's nothing for you to see here.

I'm not sure I want a mayor who pays this much attention to bloggers in the first place. Get a life Foster. There's nothing for you to see here.

Chris W

So he was surprised by the angry reaction? He shouldn't have been. In a long, long battle with creationists (who are *entirely* to blame for evolution being "divisive" and who keep outright lying about it being inconclusive) we have explained over and over and over again what "scientific theory" means, and that there really are transitional forms, and that when you build a genetic evolutionary tree it is nearly identical to the one you can build using comparative anatomy and paleontology, and so on. We could be trying to teach table manners to a monkey, for all the good it does. You can't explain facts and logic and reason to someone who is hell-bent on not understanding them.

Creationists can't win on science; they don't know how, and even if they did know how their "faith" wouldn't let them take the risk of being unsupported by the evidence. So they do the only thing they can - they try to cheat by generating a phony controversy where on one side is 150 years of tested and vetted scientific research, and on the other is nothing but hot air and temper tantrums. (It's like dealing with a bunch of two-year-olds dressed in lab coats and waving Bibles.)

Then they point to the "controversy" and bleat about "divisiveness" and try to steer education toward a mushy middle ground. And later on they'll talk about how public school science education doesn't work, without owning up to their interference being the *reason* it doesn't work. You can't develop sharp scientific minds in your students when you have to constantly worry about which stupid and oversensitive creationist you're going to offend.

Mr. Foster, you apparently haven't learned anything from the Crusades, the Inquisition, Communism, or Nazism. If we ever get TypePad to fix their comment filters, we can get into this at greater length.

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