... Kati Haycock, president of the Education Trust. Haycock recently spoke to the State Board of Education about ways to eliminate the achievement gap in Florida schools. She fielded questions from the audience and then from reporter Ron Matus (his are the last four). Here's what she had to say:
Parents like to see their kids do well, but there's sort of this noise about getting to raise the standards, have the test, test the test, and get the results. And I was wondering if you had any sort of context around some of that. Are parents ultimately more supportive than teachers are initially?
When you raise standards, when you're really honest with the public in advance -- this is coming, right, these are now real standards, right, if your kids meet these it really matters, right -– then people are fine. Georgia recently raised its standards. Its proficiency rates went down substantially. But when you talk to the press and you talk to parents about that, you can weather that if they trust where you're headed, which most of them do, because most of them have seen the data comparing state proficiency rates and NAEP and they're going, "What are you guys doing?" But communication is really important.
No. 2, if I gave you the impression it takes eight or 10 years, it doesn't. I was just showing you these are schools that not only got better, they stayed better. But you basically start seeing results in terms of student achievement within two, three years, no longer. If you're not seeing results in that amount of time, something's wrong with the implementation strategy. You can begin to see real progress, not in all measures, but in what we call kind of a leading set of indicators, in just two or three years.
You mentioned that a number of low-income children come to school, in the beginning, behind from day one. Have you looked at our state and how we're addressing that?
My impression is at least early on –- I haven't looked at in the last year, actually -– is that you got a lot more kids in quickly, but made some compromises around quality of what goes on that you will probably want to go back and revisit. Getting kids in is hugely important, but the quality of what goes on, and the caliber of those who teach, turns out to be huge, huge, especially for low-income kids.
And I want to be clear about what I mean by that. When kids go home, to kind of print rich environments and museum trips and all that kind of stuff, the quality and the coherence of what happens in a pre-K program or another early ed program is not as important, because you get a lot of stuff filled in at home.
When you're not going back into that kind of environment, then what happened during those few hours –- what vocabulary you were exposed to, how you build your kind of understand … Really good pre-K, for example, will spend a couple of weeks on transportation. So everything the kids do –- the stories they read, the games they play –- are about trucks, trains, tractors, whatever. And by the end of that couple weeks … they've kind of mastered vocabulary in that and they can move on to the next one. The reason for that is, in order to continue to learn, you need to know somewhere around 80 percent of the words, right, that you're reading, right. Then you learn new words. This is why this is so important to be coherent about, and methodical about, and not just leave it to individual teachers to figure out. Because kids need to master that vocabulary in order to keep learning.
Here's a concern: If a child knows he doesn't read well in third grade, he's not being remediated, he gets to high school and he still doesn't read well … I would like to see a shift of that kind of remediation some way into career technical or into some course that makes a difference to the kid.
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