... Dr. Jay B. Labov, a senior adviser for education and communications for the National Academy of Sciences and the National Research Council. He also oversees the National Academies' activities to improve the teaching of evolution in public schools. Labov spoke with reporter Jeff Solochek about Florida's new science standards.
Generally, relating to Florida's new standards, how do you view them?
Well, it's a good thing, first of all, that they're actually acknowledging evolution and including the word in the standards. And I also think it's good news that the standards explicitly state, and the board adopted the idea, that evolution is one of the big ideas in science and one of the underlying principles of biology.
So the words 'scientific theory' don't bother you?
It is a scientific theory. I notice they also put those words in front of other things such as the scientific theory of cells, which is also true. So I think it may have been an attempt to try to mollify some people who think that theory is something less than how scientists think about it. Theory is the highest level of evidence and explanation in the scientific world. But the fact that they also included that next to the scientific theory of cells, for instance, or atoms, suggests that theory is at a high level. So if evolution is equal to those theories, or vice versa, I would say that's probably reasonable.
But we also know that evolution is a fact. In our book Science, Evolution and Creationism, if you look on page 11 you'll see a whole box that asks the question 'Is evolution a theory or a fact?' And it points out why it's both.
I have seen a lot of people commenting in different places that evolution is not a theory, it's the theory. And so they kind of take issue with the way the State Board of Education wiggled around it. I was wondering what you think about that.
I didn't realize the word 'a' or 'the.' It is the scientific theory or explanation that is accepted by the overwhelming majority of the scientific community. It has evidence from many, many different disciplines, it is one of the most robust theories in its ability to explain and predict in all of science. ... It's also been shown over the course of years, and as new disciplines have come on line, such as molecular biology, that's only served to reinforce and build upon what we already have known about the theory of evolution for a long time.
So why has this not become the law of evolution, for instance?
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